Refusal to use feeder lane on M50

shinju

What's with people's refusal to use the feeder lanes on the M50.

There are some pretty long ones, e.g. southbound from Charlestown to the Blanchardstown exit.

Yet people insist on using the 1st of the 3 main lanes and then WAIT until the last minute at the junction and then attempt to squeeze in, sometimes at high speed. Thus endangering everyone.

It defeats the purpose of the lane and does f*ck all to ease the congestion on the motorway.

Tails142

shinju wrote: »

What's with people's refusal to use the feeder lanes on the M50.

There are some pretty long ones, e.g. southbound from Charlestown to the Blanchardstown exit.

Yet people insist on using the 1st of the 3 main lanes and then WAIT until the last minute at the junction and then attempt to squeeze in, sometimes at high speed. Thus endangering everyone.

It defeats the purpose of the lane and does f*ck all to ease the congestion on the motorway.

Any time I go in early I instantly regret it as I meet someone either crawling along in the feeder lane going ridiculously slow or else someone in lane 1 going slow and I have to decide whether to undertake or not. Better to keep my options open

shinju

Tails142 wrote: »

Any time I go in early I instantly regret it as I meet someone either crawling along in the feeder lane going ridiculously slow

Perhaps pass them and get back into the feeder lane?

Tails142 wrote: »

or else someone in lane 1 going slow and I have to decide whether to undertake or not. Better to keep my options open

It's the feeder lane, should be dedicated for a specific purpose (i.e. taking the next exit) so undertaking should not matter if the people in the 1st main driving lane are going straight on.

dudara

Some people slow down the minute they enter the exit lane. God knows why?? It can be very fustrating to enter the exit lane at 100 km/hr then find yourself behind someone at 70-80 km/hr, even when there's a kilometre or more to go.

shinju

It seems to be false economy. I watch people doing this all the time (exiting at very last minute) while risking lives and it doesn't really save them any time.
A few minutes at most, but it seems that people really have to get places quickly.

I don't think it's necessary to get in early on, but doing it at the very last moment, whilst bullying other drivers for a space is the problem.

Dartz

shinju wrote: »

What's with people's refusal to use the feeder lanes on the M50.

There are some pretty long ones, e.g. southbound from Charlestown to the Blanchardstown exit.

Yet people insist on using the 1st of the 3 main lanes and then WAIT until the last minute at the junction and then attempt to squeeze in, sometimes at high speed. Thus endangering everyone.

It defeats the purpose of the lane and does f*ck all to ease the congestion on the motorway.

How else am I supposed to skip the queue of feckless morons waiting 20 minutes to get from Finglas to blanchardstown?

mfceiling

I'll keep posting this....do not let them push in. EVER. I will not let anyone push in in front of me. You are well able to join the queue like the rest of the world.

TheChizler

mfceiling wrote: »

I'll keep posting this....do not let them push in. EVER. I will not let anyone push in in front of me. You are well able to join the queue like the rest of the world.

What's the difference between pushing in and joining the queue? They'll have to move in front of someone at some point.

mfceiling

TheChizler wrote: »

What's the difference between pushing in and joining the queue? They'll have to move in front of someone at some point.

I see it every day. Traffic is moving fine in the feeder lane but you'll always see a few pricks cutting across from the 2nd and 3rd lane at the last second to get to their exit. Ample time and opportunity to join the feeder lane well in advance but no, it's easier to cut everyone up so they can gain 40 seconds.

OldMrBrennan83

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bop1977

It simply comes down to driver training. You can drive at 30 kmph around a town for 30 minutes your good to go for life (ie the driving test). No driver training on how to use motorways so this is common place.

I see it all the time, crawling along the feeder lane then joining the motorway and bringing the car up to motorway speed when they have merged.

beauf

shinju wrote: »

What's with people's refusal to use the feeder lanes on the M50.....insist on using the 1st of the 3 main lanes and then WAIT until the last minute at the junction and then attempt to squeeze in, sometimes at high speed. Thus endangering everyone......

I love the way people don't deny they do this. Instead they rationalize why they think its ok.

The reason people drive they do is because they haven't been penalized or had an accident. Until either happens they won't change their behavior. If its ingrained they won't do it then either.

hi5

People go from the feeder lane to the 3 lanes of the motorway because there is no initial sign at the entry junction to the motorway to let them know that the feeder lane will take them all the way to the next exit, fine if you are familiar with the route but many are not.

No excuse for entering the filter lane late to exit as there are plenty of warnings...

https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.3268992,-6.3760052,3a,60y,133.04h,101.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQmBxaUeStRQAojL3E1Tayw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

wandererz

I recently drove from Brussels to Germany and back again.
What a difference!!
Holy Cow, those folks keep to the driving lane, move out to the passing lanes to overtake and then move back to the driving lane. Everyone!
It's simply amazing to see it actually happening.

How is it possible in those countries yet impossible here? There's certainly something messed up about our driver education and [edit] enforcement.

For a country that provides free 3rd level education i find it difficult to understand why it is so difficult to engender good driving practice (where lives matter).

Even something like overhead signs indicating driving lanes, passing lanes and feeder lane usage may help. But that seems a far fetched impossibility.

beauf

It's not education its enforcement...

beauf

It's not education its enforcement...

TheChizler

TheChizler wrote: »

What's the difference between pushing in and joining the queue? They'll have to move in front of someone at some point.

If they don't save time by skipping the queue, they won't be as quick to do it again

wandererz

beauf wrote: »

It's not education its enforcement...

Thanks, edited that above.

TheChizler

bluewolf wrote: »

If they don't save time by skipping the queue, they won't be as quick to do it again

I'm always wary of dishing out justice or lessons on the roads, it's not my job. Someone could have honestly made a mistake and be trying to get in first opportunity. Also if they are just a bad driver and intentially acting aggressively then blocking them is just going to make them act more dangerously.

OldMrBrennan83

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TheChizler

Patww79 wrote: »

I find there's very few genuine mistakes on the roads, if any at all.

Come on now everybody makes stupid mistakes on the road every so often. Maybe you're thinking of accidents?

OldMrBrennan83

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Zatoichi

David Coulthard's 'Concertina effect' in full effect on the M50 everyday with people waiting till the last second and then cutting in with brake lights flaring.

beauf

They do it a lot where the M50 meets the M1. Stay in the overtaking lane till last minute then dive for the airport.

Do it everywhere basically.

Grolschevik

beauf wrote:

They do it a lot where the M50 meets the M1. Stay in the overtaking lane till last minute then dive for the airport.

That can be a pain in the hole for people joining at the Ballymun junction and wanting to get into the rightmost exit lane for Malahide.

Charles Babbage

TheChizler wrote: »

I'm always wary of dishing out justice or lessons on the roads, it'seems not my job. Someone could have honestly made a mistake and be trying to get in first opportunity. Also if they are just a bad driver and intentially acting aggressively then blocking them is just going to make them act more dangerously.

A person "making a mistake" does not acquire the right to drive dangerously as a consequence.

TheChizler

Charles Babbage wrote: »

A person "making a mistake" does not acquire the right to drive dangerously as a consequence.

No I'm just saying making a late lane change may not all be borne out of the racing mentality. No excuse for cutting in dangerously.

I was making that point in response to the suggestion that you should block someone from moving left if you feel they should have done it sooner.

mfceiling wrote: »

I'll keep posting this....do not let them push in. EVER. I will not let anyone push in in front of me. You are well able to join the queue like the rest of the world.