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Denied increment as I had not passed the H&S exam

  • 10-11-2017 12:48pm
    #1
    cmssjone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭


    Hi guys,

    Hopefully someone can clarify this for me. I applied for incremental credit from a few years ago when I was teaching with a conditional licence from the Teaching Council. They rejected me on the grounds that I was unqualified until I passed the History and Structure exam later on. Is this correct?


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  • #2
    evolving_doors
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    What type of school, VEC/ETB?


  • #3
    rainbowtrout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    When did you qualify. From 2013 (I'm almost 100% sure) you have to have the dip for any school.


  • #4
    r93kaey5p2izun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    This has been the case for a few of my colleagues.


  • #5
    cmssjone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭cmssjone


    I had a PGCE from the UK but did not complete the H and S exam until 22 Sept 2011. They are denying the time of 2008-2009. I left Ireland after this and returned 2 years later. I have received credit for the 2 years that I worked abroad. The school where I worked in 2008-2009 was a private school in Dublin.

    It seems a little odd that they will recognise my experience abroad but won’t recognise my experience within Ireland.


  • #6
    r93kaey5p2izun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    Without the exam you are technically not fully qualified for the irish system as you have a shortfall. You were qualified for work abroad. Only qualified service counts for incremental credit.


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  • #7
    cmssjone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭cmssjone


    Kinsley Old-fashioned Skater wrote: »
    Without the exam you are technically not fully qualified for the irish system as you have a shortfall. You were qualified for work abroad. Only qualified service counts for incremental credit.

    Thanks for the clarification. I suppose I should be happy it’s only 1 year that I’ve lost as annoying as it may be.


  • #8
    rainbowtrout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    cmssjone wrote: »
    I had a PGCE from the UK but did not complete the H and S exam until 22 Sept 2011. They are denying the time of 2008-2009. I left Ireland after this and returned 2 years later. I have received credit for the 2 years that I worked abroad. The school where I worked in 2008-2009 was a private school in Dublin.

    It seems a little odd that they will recognise my experience abroad but won’t recognise my experience within Ireland.

    You were qualified to work in the UK. You were not qualified to work in Ireland. Why would you expect to be paid the qualified rate for a year when you were not qualified?:confused:


  • #9
    cmssjone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭cmssjone


    rainbowtrout wrote: »
    You were qualified to work in the UK. You were not qualified to work in Ireland. Why would you expect to be paid the qualified rate for a year when you were not qualified?:confused:

    I would have expected the PGCE to be recognised in Ireland just as the H Dip is in the UK. To be denied an increment on the basis of not having taken an exam that has no actual use in the classroom seems disproportionate.


  • #10
    byhookorbycrook
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    cmssjone wrote: »
    I would have expected the PGCE to be recognised in Ireland just as the H Dip is in the UK. To be denied an increment on the basis of not having taken an exam that has no actual use in the classroom seems disproportionate.
    Welcome to the joys of the Irish Ed. system.


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