Should beggars be taxed?

Asus X540L

I hear they can make around 200 euro a day.

Maybe they should pay their dues like everyone else.

pjohnson

Asus X540L wrote: »

I hear they can make around 200 euro a day.

Maybe they should pay their dues like everyone else.

I hear pigs can fly.

Falthyron

Asus X540L wrote: »

I hear they can make around 200 euro a day.

Maybe they should pay their dues like everyone else.

Seek help.

srsly78

They are already liable to tax under the self-assessment system - just like other self-employed individuals. If you think they may be underdeclaring you could make an anonymous report to Revenue. It's likely the taxman will put them in the audit queue just behind teenage grass cutters and Bono.

Walter Bishop

2/10.

Guy Sajer

Just tax them yourself. Next time you give them some change, withhold the appropriate percentage you think they should be taxed, and donate it.

Boom_Bap

No, they should be talked to, listened to and there should be attempts to take them out of the situation that they are in which has led to the begging.

"Should Apple, and other corporations, be appropriately taxed?"



*Ensuing cries of hysteria*


Yeah, lets go after those who have to live on small change. Although I'm sure there'll be someone along in a minute to pontificate on the life of luxury that is to be had on the streets....

Sue Pa Key Pa

They all have a team of accountants lodging their profits off shore

Dr Brown

If your a "charity" then you don't have to pay any tax.

The "professional" beggars that are part of a large group, who then give their money to a head person, should definitely be taxed. The others, nope.

Dr Brown

Deleted User wrote: »

The "professional" beggars that are part of a large group, who then give their money to a head person, should definitely be taxed. The others, nope.

But you can't tax people if they are a "charity".

MilesMorales1

We should put them to work in the slave mines and factories of the future under robot overlords. That'll teach em.

Capt'n Midnight

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

We should put them to work in the slave mines and factories of the future under robot overlords. That'll teach em.

Yeah send them to the salt mines up in Carrickfergus.

riffmongous

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Yeah send them to the salt mines up in Carrickfergus.

But the sea is wide and they cannot swim over

retro:electro

Beggars be taxed sounds like something you'd say if you're confounded about something- "well beggars be taxed I never knew that".

Pawwed Rig

It depends on what they are doing. If providing a service like playing to spoons for you or singing a rousing rendition of Danny Boy then it may be a case of exchange of service for remuneration so it could be taxable.

On the other hand if a guy is sitting and zonked out of his head and people are giving him money these could be considered gifts. If none of the payments are more than 3k then there would be no tax.

I never like giving beggers money. It just never feels like a good idea.

chatticusfinch

Should try too hard clickbait thread titled be taxed? The answer will shock you!

Hilly Bill

Asus X540L wrote: »

I hear they can make around 200 euro a day.

Maybe they should pay their dues like everyone else.

I know one that makes around 20 quid an hour.

Cookie_Monster

Dr Brown wrote: »

But you can't tax people if they are a "charity".

are they registered charities?

RobbingBandit

My cats breath smells like cat food.

Are Am Eye

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

It depends on what they are doing.

Beggars can't be choosers.

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A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

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There's a" life of luxury that is to be had on the streets"....

I'm gone.. . bye:)

Tigger

i tgink they have a 5k gift tax per person per year allowance as donwe all

gramar

'that money was just resting in my paper cup'

corner of hells

Definitely not, however I do believe they should be paying for the spot that they sit on.
Rental or an option to buy should be an option too.

Boom_Bap

Boom_Bap wrote: »

No, they should be talked to, listened to and there should be attempts to take them out of the situation that they are in which has led to the begging.

I really doubt our local crew here want to go back to Romania or whatever part of eastern Europe they have came from.

sbsquarepants

Boom_Bap wrote: »

No, they should be talked to, listened to and there should be attempts to take them out of the situation that they are in which has led to the begging.

Yea, cos it's usually someone elses fault that you've found yourself tanked up / strung out and harassing decent people to buy your next fix.

corner of hells

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Boom_Bap wrote: »

No, they should be talked to, listened to and there should be attempts to take them out of the situation that they are in which has led to the begging.

Yea, cos it's usually someone elses fault that you've found yourself tanked up / strung out and harassing decent people to buy your next fix.

"Spare any change , Bud? "

Boom_Bap

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Yea, cos it's usually someone elses fault that you've found yourself tanked up / strung out and harassing decent people to buy your next fix.

So that's an excuse not to help them get back on their feet and end the harassing?

sbsquarepants

Boom_Bap wrote: »

So that's an excuse not to help them get back on their feet and end the harassing?

I wouldn't say that, but it's a damn good reason to stick them somewhere near the bottom of the list.

You hear loads about this "homeless crisis" we're experiencing, and I have a lot of sympathy for people who have lost their home through global downturns, fiddled trackers and all that kind of stuff. Families in hotel rooms and so on - it's a terrible situation for most.

But....if you are lying in doorway reeking of piss and begging for your next bag of gear or bottle of buckfast, you aren't a victim of anything, you're just a fúcking waster!

Boom_Bap

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I wouldn't say that, but it's a damn good reason to stick them somewhere near the bottom of the list.

You hear loads about this "homeless crisis" we're experiencing, and I have a lot of sympathy for people who have lost their home through global downturns, fiddled trackers and all that kind of stuff. Families in hotel rooms and so on - it's a terrible situation for most.

But....if you are lying in doorway reeking of piss and begging for your next bag of gear or bottle of buckfast, you aren't a victim of anything, you're just a fúcking waster!

I'd say there a a proportion that are wasters alright, but there are also others that aren't and stuck where they are.

razorblunt

Asus X540L wrote: »

I hear they can make around 200 euro a day.

Maybe they should pay their dues like everyone else.

We definitely should make the decision for them as I've heard that beggars can't be choosers.

Gerrup Outta Dat!

Asus X540L wrote: »

I hear they can make around 200 euro a day.

Maybe they should pay their dues like everyone else.

Why don’t you do it yourself then, OP? I’ll give you a few rags you can put on.

corner of hells

Boom_Bap wrote: »

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I wouldn't say that, but it's a damn good reason to stick them somewhere near the bottom of the list.

You hear loads about this "homeless crisis" we're experiencing, and I have a lot of sympathy for people who have lost their home through global downturns, fiddled trackers and all that kind of stuff. Families in hotel rooms and so on - it's a terrible situation for most.

But....if you are lying in doorway reeking of piss and begging for your next bag of gear or bottle of buckfast, you aren't a victim of anything, you're just a fúcking waster!

I'd say there a a proportion that are wasters alright, but there are also others that aren't and stuck where they are.

A lot are heroin addicts.Most are begging from bag to bag and trying to raise there payment for their hostel.

Capt'n Midnight

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

On the other hand if a guy is sitting and zonked out of his head and people are giving him money these could be considered gifts. If none of the payments are more than 3k then there would be no tax.

Interesting.

And if they had a trust fund run by a shell company based on a small Caribbean island ?

aligator_am

Boom_Bap wrote: »

No, they should be talked to, listened to and there should be attempts to take them out of the situation that they are in which has led to the begging.

Out of interest, do you speak whatever language the organised gangs of Roma gypsy beggars / thieves speak?