New Subaru XV

AMKC

So the new Subaru XV is out soon with prices starting from 33,495 Euro,s.

Why is it not available a manual do? Very disappointing would think Subaru would be the kind of company that wants sell cars people want to drive. It only has a CVT Transmission at the moment.

walus

At that price how many are they expecting to sell? Two?

I do know that Ireland are far from their prime market but still they should try better.

bazz26

What's really wrong with it being auto only? It's a crossover probably only going to be used for school runs by the majority of owners so it's not like it's a track car. They probably won't sell many here anyway no matter what type of gearbox they have.

AMKC

walus wrote: »

At that price how many are they expecting to sell? Two?

I do know that Ireland are far from their prime market but still they should try better.

No idea but if they had a manual maybe they could sell it cheaper around 30k maybe and get more people interested in it.
I agree they should.

bazz26 wrote: »

What's really wrong with it being auto only? It's a crossover probably only going to be used for school runs by the majority of owners so it's not like it's a track car. They probably won't sell many here anyway no matter what type of gearbox they have.

Less choice for potential customers. Maybe some people might see it like it and be interested only to find out its only available as on auto only and they don,t drive or are not interested in that. It could be sold for less maybe around the 30k mark if it had a Manual transmission which would mean more customers and more interest in it.

DaveyDave

AMKC wrote: »

No idea but if they had a manual maybe they could sell it cheaper around 30k maybe and get more people interested in it.
I agree they should.

Less choice for potential customers. Maybe some people might see it like it and be interested only to find out its only available as on auto only and they don,t drive or are not interested in that. It could be sold for less maybe around the 30k mark if it had a Manual transmission which would mean more customers and more interest in it.

To be fair they never had potential customers in the first place, Subaru only sold 178 cars last year and 167 this year so far. Of that they only moved 23 XVs last year, 30 this year but the numbers are negligible. I imagine with their target market, auto would be preferred as bazz mentioned it's probably mostly for school runs and an auto is a better car to drive.

AMKC

DaveyDave wrote: »

To be fair they never had potential customers in the first place, Subaru only sold 178 cars last year and 167 this year so far. Of that they only moved 23 XVs last year, 30 this year but the numbers are negligible. I imagine with their target market, auto would be preferred as bazz mentioned it's probably mostly for school runs and an auto is a better car to drive.

How is it that they can do so well in America but struggle here? Do people be afraid that the all wheel drive is going to mean they are harder of fuel and less economical?

colm_mcm

No brand presence in Ireland. No money spent in marketing, and apart from their brief foray into diesel, nothing much to interest the Irish market

TigerTim

Are their boxer diesels as bad as reported. I looked at a 2011 Outback recently with 110K miles but after Googling & searching on Boards.ie, there are a lot of reports of crankshaft failures/expensive maintenance/engine out to do injectors. I do know a guy with a diesel Forester & he has had very littlt issues & raves about it.

T.

road_high

DaveyDave wrote: »

To be fair they never had potential customers in the first place, Subaru only sold 178 cars last year and 167 this year so far. Of that they only moved 23 XVs last year, 30 this year but the numbers are negligible. I imagine with their target market, auto would be preferred as bazz mentioned it's probably mostly for school runs and an auto is a better car to drive.

I wouldn't buy a Subaru, I think there's far slicker options available elsewhere- to me they are expensive, extremely bland looking, almost no brand image. Top that off with the questions over the boxer diesels you can see why sales are so minuscule. Wonder will they keep bothering

walus

I personally like Subaru. Had Legacy before and it was great to drive. However in terms of technology advancements and fit and finish Subaru are behind most car makers nowadays. You really have to want Subaru to buy one and it would have to be for a very good reason (proper all wheel drive, traction etc.). Otherwise there is plenty of other choices.
Levorg is even better example - e45k! Nice car but not at that price.

Del2005

AMKC wrote: »

How is it that they can do so well in America but struggle here? Do people be afraid that the all wheel drive is going to mean they are harder of fuel and less economical?

Because the Americans don't drive stick.

I never understand why people want to make more work for themselves when driving, auto boxes are the way forward and even the motoring journalists have copped it.

colm_mcm

The price of fuel on the US comped to here is a factor too though.

Cee-Jay-Cee

I had a Legacy (petrol) for 5 years with zero issues or problems in that time. It was a fantastic car and would go absolutely anywhere with its AWD.

If I were in the market for an AWD car then Subaru would be my first choice.

TigerTim

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

I had a Legacy (petrol) for 5 years with zero issues or problems in that time. It was a fantastic car and would go absolutely anywhere with its AWD.

If I were in the market for an AWD car then Subaru would be my first choice.

I think PETROL is the important word there. No issues with them, just a bit heavy on fuel.

T.

JamesM

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

I had a Legacy (petrol) for 5 years with zero issues or problems in that time. It was a fantastic car and would go absolutely anywhere with its AWD.

If I were in the market for an AWD car then Subaru would be my first choice.

As I mentioned in another thread yesterday, I loved my Legacy. I had 2 in a row, a 00D and a 06D. The 06D was auto, had cruise control, very good air conditioning, leather seats, lots of extras for it's time. In the 2010 ice and snow, I could go anywhere, while the Mercs and BMWs were sliding round all over the place - holding me up . I agree that I would not pay the prices now. Because it was a 2.5 petrol, I only got €2000.00 in a trade-in in 2016.

road_high

I hardly ever see a new Subaru. See the odd Outback or Forester with a recent year reg. Little else. Imprezas used be quite common here, never see one now.

road_high

colm_mcm wrote: »

No brand presence in Ireland. No money spent in marketing, and apart from their brief foray into diesel, nothing much to interest the Irish market

The chapest Subarus to tax is 390euro oer annum so I'd imagine that doesn't go down too well with irish buyers :pac: