1911 Census: Appearing twice

Newstreet

I have a Dublin couple on my tree, married on 30 Aug 1906. Their names are John Roche and Dora Roche, née Murray.

They appear separately in the 1901 census, living with their various families:
John Roche - http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003807299/
Dora Murray - http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003729812/

They appear twice in the 1911 census as a couple:
John & Dora - http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000202483/
John & Dora - http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000199254/

Both entries appear correct. In the first entry above, the years married and number of children are wrong, but John's occupation is right. There's a living child missing. In the second entry above, John's occupation and place of birth are wrong, yet his daughter and sister-in-law are correct.

I am of the opinion, that the couple were apart on census night, and both filled in the census separately. It is most unlikely that there were two John Roches the same age, both married to a Dora.

Any thoughts?

Hermy

John is a confectioner and his father a butcher according to the 1906 record of his marriageto Dora.
When did he change job?

Esther b. 1906 father's occupation - baker
Anne b. 1908 father's occupation - baker
Ellen b. 1911 father's occupation - labourer
Joseph b. 1912 father's occupation - baker
Charles Christopher father's occupation - confectioner

Victor

A confectioner is a baker that makes cakes instead of bread. Substantially the same occupation. I presume the stint as a labourer was between main jobs.

Hermy

I mean the change from the forge to the kitchens.

The OP states that blacksmith is the correct occupation as per first linked 1911 census return.

Mollymoo19

The blacksmith and the baker were two different guys. The blacksmith married Dora Doyle on 21 Feb 1909, Dublin. https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1909/10009/5640219.pdf

Hermy

That's what I thought but I was damned if I could find the marriage of the other couple.

pinkypinky

Nicely solved everyone!

tabbey

Being recorded twice in the census was common enough, but impossible to quantify.

In my own history, two brothers, publicans, and cousins of my grandfather, were listed both in their pub and in their family home. Presumably their mother recorded them assuming they had been, would be or should be at home later in the night.

It is very difficult to be certain of somebody being counted twice, unless a prominent citizen with an uncommon name. Daniel Tallon, Lord Mayor of Dublin for two years before the turn of the century, is recorded at home as well as on retreat with the Jesuits in Milltown Park. Perhaps he was expected to spend Sunday night there and went home prematurely, or maybe he filled in his home return, assuming that the Jesuits would not list him.

The real problem is the other side of the coin, somebody not filling a form, in the mistaken belief that he or she has been recorded at another address.

Newstreet

Mollymoo19 nailed it - there WERE two John Roches married to a Dora. I was following the wrong couple. Textbook error. Many thanks everyone who responded so enthusiastically!

Newstreet

Just as a little sad byeline to the topic, John Roche the blacksmith died in 1916 aged just 33, and his wife Dorah went on to be 44 years a widow...