Egyptian TV Star, jailed for pregnancy while unmarried

BalcombeSt4

It seems Egypt and Saudi Arabia are having a competition to see who can be the most extreme country in the Middle East. (but both keep loosing to Israel.)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/03/egyptian-tv-presenter-jailed-for-pregnancy-out-of-wedlock-remarks

Good thing we got that Irish lad out of thier.

Also what are the territories Egypt claims is theres?

qz

Totally.

There are 5 countries that end in the letter L. No Googling you rascal!

BalcombeSt4

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

Good thing we got that Irish lad out of thier.

Yes, the last thing he needed in that cell was an unplanned pregnancy.

LadyMacBeth_

Jaysus, she isn't even pregnant outside of marriage, she just talked about it. She got three years in prison for the hypothetical situation of being single and unmarried.

Ipso

Wasn't McEgyptian protesting agin the current regime?

branie2

The religion of peace at it's "best"

The_Valeyard

This is from the same country that some insane legal eagle thinks its the national duty to rape women who wear short skirts.

Outlaw Pete

Proper order.

Joshua J

branie2 wrote: »

The religion of peace at it's "best"

Our very own religion of peace created the Magdalene Laundries.

branie2

Joshua J wrote: »

Our very own religion of peace created the Magdalene Laundries.

But we don't behead people, like that other religion of "peace"

Joshua J

branie2 wrote: »

But we don't behead people, like that other religion of "peace"

Yeah they did, just different points in time. Instead of looking down our noses we should support those that want change because we've been there, in the very recent past.

LadyMacBeth_

Joshua J wrote: »

Yeah they did, just different points in time. Instead of looking down our noses we should support those that want change because we've been there, in the very recent past.

I wouldn't call the middle ages the very recent past

They are at our crusades period, maybe they will have caught up in a few hundred years.

suicide_circus

Modern Egypt is a toilet.

Joshua J

LadyMacBeth_ wrote: »

I wouldn't call the middle ages the very recent past

I was referring to the OP and the Laundries.

branie2

Im not the op, Balcombest is

iguana

LadyMacBeth_ wrote: »

I wouldn't call the middle ages the very recent past

They are at our crusades period, maybe they will have caught up in a few hundred years.

The middle ages? The last person known to be executed as a heretic in "Christian" Europe was in 1826. Many hundreds of years after the end of the middle ages.

Joshua J

branie2 wrote: »

Im not the op, Balcombest is

I was referring to the Opening Post about jailing a pregnant woman and Irelands recent scandals involving the Laundries.

splinter65

Joshua J wrote: »

Our very own religion of peace created the Magdalene Laundries.

So that means that 80 years later anyone Irish who criticizes Sharia Law and those who impose it on their people is a racist/ignorant/islamaphobic/Nazi.
Ok. Got it.
Don’t say anything about Islam.
They also throw gay people from atop tall buildings but don’t mention that.

LadyMacBeth_

iguana wrote: »

The middle ages? The last person known to be executed as a heretic in "Christian" Europe was in 1826. Many hundreds of years after the end of the middle ages.

Well in that case we will be waiting even longer for them to catch up

Amalgam

Joshua J wrote: »

I was referring to the Opening Post about jailing a pregnant woman and Irelands recent scandals involving the Laundries.

Your, 'whataboutism' is so insightful, please.. more. I'll try and help too, maybe get Cromwell or Hitler wedged into the thread at some point.

namloc1980

qz wrote: »

Totally.

There are 5 countries that end in the letter L. No Googling you rascal!

Nepal, Brazil, Portugal, Israel - stuck on the other 1!

branie2

namloc1980 wrote: »

Nepal, Brazil, Portugal, Israel - stuck on the other 1!

Senegal

namloc1980

branie2 wrote: »

Senegal

Ah yes! Should have got that...

Joshua J

splinter65 wrote: »

So that means that 80 years later anyone Irish who criticizes Sharia Law and those who impose it on their people is a racist/ignorant/islamaphobic/Nazi.
Ok. Got it.
Don’t say anything about Islam.
They also throw gay people from atop tall buildings but don’t mention that.

I'm criticizing both religions.

Joshua J

Amalgam wrote: »

Your, 'whataboutism' is so insightful, please.. more. I'll try and help too, maybe get Cromwell or Hitler wedged into the thread at some point.

We were where they are and we still haven't dealt with our skeletons. We should lead by example before we pass judgement.

splinter65

Joshua J wrote: »

I'm criticizing both religions.

No your not really. Your trying to shut down any criticism of Islam.
I have no idea why because you don’t make any defense of Islam, you just don’t want there to be any criticism.

Joshua J

splinter65 wrote: »

No your not really. Your trying to shut down any criticism of Islam.
I have no idea why because you don’t make any defense of Islam, you just don’t want there to be any criticism.

I'm not going to look in my neighbours garden and tell him to clean it up when mine is full of trash.

volchitsa

splinter65 wrote: »

No your not really. Your trying to shut down any criticism of Islam.
I have no idea why because you don’t make any defense of Islam, you just don’t want there to be any criticism.

I think the point is we can't do anything about Islam in Egypt, and our own moral high ground in telling them what to do is looking a little shaky.

It was only in 2012 that a woman was left to die because "this is a Catholic country".

So maybe we should worry about getting our own house in order and just shake our heads at the sad fact that the religious crazies elsewhere are even worse.

We're not going to invade Egypt to set them right, are we? And we've got plenty to be going on with here.

That said, it's absolutely disgusting that the woman was jailed, and I've no problem saying that Egypt is looking more and more like a hellhole, if it wasn't already. I'd support letting these progressive Muslims who find themselves on the wrong side of religious obscurantism come here if they want though. Dunno if that would solve the problem in Egypt mind.

splinter65

Joshua J wrote: »

I'm not going to look in my neighbours garden and tell him to clean it up when mine is full of trash.

So...past atrocities by adherents of one belief system should ensure a blanket of silence from society at large, when another belief system in 2017 advocates for the:
torture and murder of homosexual,
the subjugation of women and
currently, the murder of innocent men women and children in random cowardly attacks in countries which have made the adherents welcome.

Joshua J

splinter65 wrote: »

So...past atrocities by adherents of one belief system should ensure a blanket of silence from society at large, when another belief system in 2017 advocates for the:
torture and murder of homosexual,
the subjugation of women and
currently, the murder of innocent men women and children in random cowardly attacks in countries which have made the adherents welcome.

Criticise all you want if it makes you feel better.

Odhinn

splinter65 wrote: »

...............
the subjugation of women and
currently, the murder of innocent men women and children in random cowardly attacks in countries which have made the adherents welcome.

You seem to be conflating ordinary muslims with extremists there.

splinter65

Joshua J wrote: »

Criticise all you want if it makes you feel better.

Your suggestion that 1 billion Catholics world wide never mind how many more Christian denominations need to stay silent in the face of ISIS says it all about how you feel about the victims of ISIS, both Muslim and non Muslim.

splinter65

Odhinn wrote: »

You seem to be conflating ordinary muslims with extremists there.

If you are an adherent of a religion then you are on board with all its tenets.
....or at least that is what you will be told repeatedly over in the A&A forum.
I can only assume that applies to all religions, not just Christianity?

Zebra3

branie2 wrote: »

The religion of peace at it's "best"

It’s shyte all right but we then we also have Christian countries slaughtering people in the Middle East to prop up dictatorships and to get their hands on oil to help destroy the planet.

Moral of the story: All religions are a con.

Joshua J

splinter65 wrote: »

Your suggestion that 1 billion Catholics world wide never mind how many more Christian denominations need to stay silent in the face of ISIS says it all about how you feel about the victims of ISIS, both Muslim and non Muslim.

Your binary thinking has you confused. In my analogy of the messy garden it's better to clean your garden, put a few flowers in it, a water feature maybe and some bird feeders. Then when your neighbour admires it, offer to help him do his.

splinter65

Joshua J wrote: »

Your binary thinking has you confused. In my analogy of the messy garden it's better to clean your garden, put a few flowers in it, a water feature maybe and some bird feeders. Then when your neighbour admires it, offer to help him do his.

Whoever else you condemn, be very very very careful not to criticise Islam, and be sure to shut down any criticism of Islam at every opportunity.
It’s almost like some kind of a cult at this stage.....

Joshua J

splinter65 wrote: »

Whoever else you condemn, be very very very careful not to criticise Islam, and be sure to shut down any criticism of Islam at every opportunity.
It’s almost like some kind of a cult at this stage.....

As i said, criticise all you want for all the good it'll do.

Ulysses Gaze

Joshua J wrote: »

I'm not going to look in my neighbours garden and tell him to clean it up when mine is full of trash.

But would you invite that neighbour into your own garden knowing he may make your own garden worse?

Joshua J

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

But would you invite that neighbour into your own garden knowing he may make your own garden worse?

He might drive a Mazda but I wouldn't hold it against him, I'd take him on merit.

BalcombeSt4

branie2 wrote: »

But we don't behead people, like that other religion of "peace"

The Shankill Butchers did.

Odhinn

splinter65 wrote: »

If you are an adherent of a religion then you are on board with all its tenets.
....or at least that is what you will be told repeatedly over in the A&A forum.
I can only assume that applies to all religions, not just Christianity?

Sorry, but that seems to be rather a strange and convoluted rabbit hole you've gone down.

As I said, you seem to be conflating extremists and ordinary muslims.

splinter65

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

The Shankill Butchers did.

Is there any way we could make this about the conflict in the north at all