Old Trees

gozunda

HI

I am currently cutting down some rotten old trees that are unsightly and generally of no use. The trees are crooked and appear to be diseased / unhealthy as well.

What is best time to cut these down size?

Thanks in advance

Oldtree

Probably best left to a professional, as you will no doubt drop a large limb on yourself and die from ignorance. A sad way to go

gozunda

As said the trees are a nuisance and probably at the end of their usefulness. Do I need a felling licence or can you just take them down?

Oldtree

You could probably try to take them down but as you asked what time of year is best to cut rotten trees that you are already in the process of cutting down, then you obviously lack the experience to deal with a real tree. My best advice to you is wear a hat.

Westernyelp

Oldtree is obviously biased towards old trees in this situation. Chop away

gozunda

Westernyelp wrote: »

Oldtree is obviously biased towards old trees in this situation. Chop away

Tanks - Will do. They are quite a nuisence at this stage. Will cut them up but tbh I don't know if they will be of use for anything ...

Oldtree

You could grind them up an spread it on the floors of your chicken coops. Reduce reuse recycle :P

Oldtree

Westernyelp wrote: »

Oldtree is obviously biased towards old trees in this situation. Chop away

Very observant, what gave it away?

gozunda

Oldtree wrote: »

Very observant, what gave it away?

Probably the gnarly replies ...

gozunda

Oldtree wrote: »

You could grind them up an spread it on the floors of your chicken coops. Reduce reuse recycle :P

Definitly full of it. But the smell of the rotten wood wouldn't be the best ...

Oldtree

gozunda wrote: »

Probably the gnarly replies ...

Wooden you know....

Oldtree

gozunda wrote: »

Definitly full of it. But the smell of the rotten wood wouldn't be the best ...

Yes your chicken coops probably are at this stage

gozunda

Oldtree wrote: »

Yes your chicken coops probably are at this stage

Chicken co-ops? Is that a regular co-op but for chicken stuff is it? Is that some type of specialised supplier where you live?

Oldtree

gozunda wrote: »

Chicken co-ops? Is that a regular co-op but for chicken stuff is it? Is that some type of specialised supplier where you live?

Are your chickens getting organised? Cooperating!! They'll be arming themselves soon, careful now...

gozunda

Oldtree wrote: »

Are your chickens getting organised? Cooperating!! They'll be arming themselves soon, careful now...

Nah afraid your making no sense whatsoever now. Your getting cranky obviously. It's past tree you know ...

Oldtree

gozunda wrote: »

Nah afraid your making no sense whatsoever now. Your getting cranky obviously. It's past tree you know ...

Are you hearing a gobble gobble gobble sound in your head? Could be acdd, attention chicken deficit disorder. Best check on them for your own piece of mind.

gozunda

Oldtree wrote: »

Are you hearing a gobble gobble gobble sound in your head? Could be acdd, attention chicken deficit disorder. Best check on them for your own piece of mind.

..No all I hear is creaks and moans - similar to the sound of the old trees in the wind that are about to get blitzed ---

Oldtree

gozunda wrote: »

..No all I hear is creaks and moans - similar to the sound of the old trees in the wind that are about to get blitzed

That's a funny noise for chickens to make. Are you sure you are treating them right? Best check on them but mind out for those old rotten trees they might fall on your head, good tome to.put the hat on.

gozunda

Oldtree wrote: »

That's a funny noise for chickens to make. Are you sure you are treating them right? Best check on them but mind out for those old rotten trees they might fall on your head, good tome to.put the hat on.

I think your hat is squeezing your head a bit too tight tbh. Careful with that kind of thing ...

Oldtree

gozunda wrote: »

I think your hat is squeezing your head a bit too tight tbh. Careful with that kind of thing ...

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gozunda

Oldtree wrote: »

To do quotes properly you need to do the following

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Careful now - sounds like you could have a bad case of bracket fungus. I hear it can be quite serious for old trees where the fungi growth may lead to weakening and to the eventual breakage or fall of affected trees

I supposed it's only nature's way of taking out the old stuff ....

have2flushtwice

Looking like the old dog for the hard road at this point...
There is a fungus, think it's called gozundatitis!

gozunda

have2flushtwice wrote: »

Looking like the old dog for the hard road at this point...
There is a fungus, think it's called gozundatitis!

Well I was looking for advice on my trees and old tree turned up - but I think he might not like the trees been cut up! But having rooted through the problem I think his bark is worse than his bite imo

Oldtree

have2flushtwice wrote: »

Looking like the old dog for the hard road at this point...
There is a fungus, think it's called gozundatitis!

I am unfamiliar with a tree disease called gozundatitis, but after Googling it, it seems to be some sort of viral chicken disease.

gozunda

Oldtree wrote: »

I am unfamiliar with a tree disease called gozundatitis, but after Googling it, it seems to be some sort of viral chicken disease.

I think you will find that that was a fake google site. Probably from the Dark Web - you know you can find all types of rubbish there.

Hope you got the bracket fungus looked at. It has a nasty habit of becoming serious and makes timber useless...then of course you could also have "Chicken of the Woods" growth as well. Whichever I'm sure your a fungi - you're a hoot either way ....

Oldtree

What did Scotti find in his gozunda aboard the enterprise?

The captains log

the_syco

gozunda wrote: »

I am currently cutting down some rotten old trees that are unsightly and generally of no use. The trees are crooked and appear to be diseased / unhealthy as well.

Do you know what type of tree they are? I wonder would they be worth anything to someone?

gozunda

the_syco wrote: »

Do you know what type of tree they are? I wonder would they be worth anything to someone?

They are a mixture of Beech and Ash planted about 80 years ago afaik. They have suffered storm damage and some are now rotten.

Tbh I think the only thing for most of the timber is firewood. Thanks for the idea though. I would prefer if they could be kept but they are now in too bad of a condition.

Nekarsulm

80 is quite young, but I suppose rot started at points where branches broke off years ago.
If you are a "learner" then watch out for rotten limbs coming down as soon as the tree starts to fall, this is a silly way to die.
If there is/was fungi growing at the base of the trees, remember the centre could be dead, and the tree can be totally unpredictable. You should know by the feel of the saw in the heartwood, and the kind of sawdust, but those trees can crumble, twist around, fall back, in fact do anything imaginable.
Can you get a few long ratchet straps up high on them and have an intelligent helper give them a pull with a tractor as you cut?

gozunda

Nekarsulm wrote: »

80 is quite young, but I suppose rot started at points where branches broke off years ago.
If you are a "learner" then watch out for rotten limbs coming down as soon as the tree starts to fall, this is a silly way to die.
If there is/was fungi growing at the base of the trees, remember the centre could be dead, and the tree can be totally unpredictable. You should know by the feel of the saw in the heartwood, and the kind of sawdust, but those trees can crumble, twist around, fall back, in fact do anything imaginable.
Can you get a few long ratchet straps up high on them and have an intelligent helper give them a pull with a tractor as you cut?

Thanks for the heads up on the dangers. We have had problems with branches falling / breaking from these trees on a fairly regular basis. Many of the trees are now unbalalanced / lop sided.

I have contacted a mate who works in Forestry to come and give an appraisal.

Then start the work hopefully.

Nekarsulm

gozunda wrote: »

I have contacted a mate who works in Forestry to come and give an appraisal.

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Good idea.
We had a very old beech come down in Ophelia. Could be 200 years old. Bole must be 5 feet across, and only a ring about a foot thick was alive at the base.

tabby aspreme

Be careful, there is still some weakened timber that hasn't hit the ground yet, 3pm today I was working in a house that has a lot of old mature trees around it, heard a loud crack and the sound of falling timber, went out for a look and a beech bough about 18 inches in diameter had snapped and fallen a good 50 ft

gozunda

Ok most of the trees now removed. Just one old / awkward tree remains and that hopefully Ill get that dealt with shortly. Guy coming back next week.

Some of the wood I think will be suitable for firewood.

Quick question - I remember someone posting a handy timber volume calculation here previously - anyone take a note of it?

fergus1001

gozunda wrote:

As said the trees are a nuisance and probably at the end of their usefulness. Do I need a felling licence or can you just take them down?

If it's more than 100 meters from a house yes you do

Oldtree

fergus1001 wrote: »

If it's more than 100 meters from a house yes you do

Its 30 meters (100 feet'ish), Forestry Act 2014

Exempted Tree Information Note

http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/media/migration/forestry/treefelling/ExemptedTreeInformationNote271017.pdf

New Tree Felling Requirements

http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/media/migration/forestry/treefelling/NewTreeFellingRequirementsInformationNote090617.pdf

Lots of info on tree felling here, so you dont make a mistake and fall foul of the law.

http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/forestservice/treefelling/treefelling/

gozunda

fergus1001 wrote: »

If it's more than 100 meters from a house yes you do

Thanks Fergus got that all sorted ...
Just one squinty old tree left - currently dealing with the trees already down ...