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herd number

  • 31-10-2017 7:18pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11


    Hi,

    I'm looking to get some information about getting a herd number.

    My father has rented the farm out to another farmer that has his own cattle on the land and holds his animals on the farm as well over the winter.

    I will have a slatted shed and a crush and an isolation house to hold any sick animals.
    The Fields that I will have as well fenced.

    What other measures would I need to have in place to be granted a herd number?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭homingbird


    there should not be a problem as sheep farmers can graze hill land together only thing is if other farmer gets his cattle locked up with disease yours will also be locked up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 ITCabbage


    Good point Homingbird


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    You won't be able to mix any animals of yours with the farmer who's already renting it out, plus you'd need separate crush & shed facilities & stockproof fencing between both his & your cattle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 ITCabbage


    You won't be able to mix any animals of yours with the farmer who's already renting it out, plus you'd need separate crush & shed facilities & stockproof fencing between both his & your cattle.


    I think I said that is what I have already
    "
    I will have a slatted shed and a crush and an isolation house to hold any sick animals.
    The Fields that I will have as well fenced."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    ITCabbage wrote: »
    I think I said that is what I have already
    "
    I will have a slatted shed and a crush and an isolation house to hold any sick animals.
    The Fields that I will have as well fenced."

    Your post made it sound like you were allowing the renting farmer to stay there at the same time. Sorry if I picked you up wrong.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭longgonesilver


    Are these sheds completely separate to the sheds the other farmer uses?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 ITCabbage


    He'll have the other 40 ac and his own sheds to house his cattle,

    So nor his cattle or mine will never mix


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭longgonesilver


    I take it you have a water supply.

    What happened to your fathers herd number.?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 495 ✭✭Attie


    ITCabbage wrote: »
    Hi,

    I'm looking to get some information about getting a herd number.

    My father has rented the farm out to another farmer that has his own cattle on the land and holds his animals on the farm as well over the winter.

    I will have a slatted shed and a crush and an isolation house to hold any sick animals.
    The Fields that I will have as well fenced.

    What other measures would I need to have in place to be granted a herd number?


    Cabbage you should be able to reactivate your Dad's old heard number as you seem to have all in place.
    Contact your local DVO for more information.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,511 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    As far as I know, but stand corrected, there maybe a requirement to have separate entrances to the yard - the same as a dealer would have if he/she also keeps cattle in a "private" herd number.
    You have a separate crush which would be mandatory and a separate shed. As homingbird posted both herds would be locked up if one herd goes down on test.
    Have you informed your father's tenant that you intend keeping cattle on the farm/in the yard. He/she will probably not be impressed that his herd health status would be compromised if there are other bovines on the land/in the yard. I'm sure he/she wouldn't have taken the lease if they had known that the circumstances would change. I doubt such a change would be written into the original lease.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,552 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    If I understand correctly the other farmer has the bulk of the land leased but not a few acres round the yard or the sheds.

    Assuming access to this is separate from the yard and there is no access from one to the other then this is irrelevant information as this farmer is really just a neighbouring farmer.

    If access is shared though there could be issues as others pointedout though.

    The OP is confusing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,511 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    If I understand correctly the other farmer has the bulk of the land leased but not a few acres round the yard or the sheds.

    Assuming access to this is separate from the yard and there is no access from one to the other then this is irrelevant information as this farmer is really just a neighbouring farmer.

    If access is shared though there could be issues as others pointedout though.

    The OP is confusing.
    OP stated in his original post that the tenant farmer has rented the farm and he also winters his cattle in the yard.
    "My father has rented the farm out to another farmer that has his own cattle on the land and holds his animals on the farm as well over the winter."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,511 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    If I understand correctly the other farmer has the bulk of the land leased but not a few acres round the yard or the sheds.

    Assuming access to this is separate from the yard and there is no access from one to the other then this is irrelevant information as this farmer is really just a neighbouring farmer.

    If access is shared though there could be issues as others pointedout though.

    The OP is confusing.
    Yep


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,552 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    Base price wrote: »
    OP stated in his original post that the tenant farmer has rented the farm and he also winters his cattle in the yard.
    "My father has rented the farm out to another farmer that has his own cattle on the land and holds his animals on the farm as well over the winter."

    The cattle could be outwintered on the land over the winter. I took it to be more irrelevant information on how the tenant manages what they have rented put in a confusing manner.

    If the tenant has everything rented they certainly won't want other cattle on the farm as for starters they're paying for the full use of it.

    It would be like renting a house and then the landlord deciding to move some of their family into the spare room just because they the house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    Hi everyone. A friend of mine bought an 8ac field with view to building house and a keeping a few horses. What are the minimum requirements for getting a herd number


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,511 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    Hi everyone. A friend of mine bought an 8ac field with view to building house and a keeping a few horses. What are the minimum requirements for getting a herd number
    I don't think there is any minimum requirements other than having the premises registered, fencing and probably have running water. Here is a link to DAFM for information on registration of premises/equine number and application form. It doesn't cost to apply.

    https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/animalhealthwelfare/animalwelfare/registrationofpremisesanimals/registrationofhorsepremises/


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