Recording both RTE and BBC simultaneously

Iderown

We are in an area where there is good signal strength and quality from both Clermont Carn (RTE) and Divis (UK channels) transmitters.

Do you have a recommendation for a TV recording box which will allow us to record simultaneously one RTE channel and one UK channel?
Thank you

The Cush

The Panasonic combi Blu Ray DTT recorders have been recommended here before for those that can receive both services, Freeview channels are stored automatically from 1 upwards with the Saorview channels stored at random in the 800s but can be resorted as required.

A similar Humax model doesn't allow resorting of the Saorview out of the 800s.

Iderown

Thank you, The Cush.
It is a Humax box that we have. I have emailed the folk at Humax to ask if there is any way that we can do this with the Humax recording box. Will reply to the thread if reply is positive and if it works.

Digifriendly

I have had a Panasonic Blu - ray player with a Freeview HD recorder (cheaper obviously than BLu ray recorder version) and I regularly record from both Freeview and Saorview channels simultaneously. It is top rate and I highly recommend it. BTW if you can get TG4 on Freeview from Belfast (appears as Ch. 51 on EPG and can be manually tuned in on C39) it is better picture quality than TG4 on Saorview due to compression.

kooga

i thought the humax has a twin tuner

have you tried record both?

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kooga wrote: »

i thought the humax has a twin tuner
have you tried record both?

Some PVRs will not record simultaneously from Freeview and Saorview EPGs but will manually record from both systems. I have a 2011 Sony Freeview HD PVR that is still working well but has this issue. Unsure if Humax recorders have the same problem.

Iderown

Many thanks for the replies and suggestions.
It's herself here who is the main TV viewer and user of the recording box. I get called in when something new/unusual has to be done.
I had a few minutes to look through the channel list of the HUMAX HDR-FOX T2. And, yes, the NImux channels from Black Mountain (C 39) are listed. The Humax box has two tuners and is capable of receiving HD coded signals. I'm therefore quite certain that simultaneous recording will be possible. (Our television is standard definition and cannot see the NImux signals directly off-air. It can see the Clermont Carn signals. The Clermont Carn signals may be useful when there is a sport transmission which is "censored" on NImux. We are located in Bangor, North Down.)
There is an interesting discussion of these matters at https://hummy.tv/forum/threads/advice-for-tuning-multiple-regions.3429/

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Iderown wrote: »

Many thanks for the replies and suggestions.
It's herself here who is the main TV viewer and user of the recording box. I get called in when something new/unusual has to be done.
I had a few minutes to look through the channel list of the HUMAX HDR-FOX T2. And, yes, the NImux channels from Black Mountain (C 39) are listed. The Humax box has two tuners and is capable of receiving HD coded signals. I'm therefore quite certain that simultaneous recording will be possible. (Our television is standard definition and cannot see the NImux signals directly off-air. It can see the Clermont Carn signals. The Clermont Carn signals may be useful when there is a sport transmission which is "censored" on NImux. We are located in Bangor, North Down.)
There is an interesting discussion of these matters at https://hummy.tv/forum/threads/advice-for-tuning-multiple-regions.3429/

I used to live in Bangor in analogue only days and Clermont Carn signals were notoriously difficult to receive partly due to co-channel interference from Whitehead relay across Belfast Lough. What are CC signals like in the DTT era? Also just out of interest do you pick up any signal whatsoever across the Irish Sea from Scotland? I used to receive Cambret Hill when I was living in Bangor and even got a whiff once from Caldbeck.

Iderown

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The aerial arrangement is shown. There is a relatively clear path to the south west.

Top of mast is the group CD vertically polarised aerial aimed at Clermont Carn. It is south west of here.
Lower is the group A horizontally polarised areial aimed at Divis and Black Mountain. They are west south west of here.
Just outside the photo, near the bottom of the mast, there is an amplifier in the Clermont Carn aerial feed. The signals are passively combined inside the house.

When I do a scan of channels I can see (along with Divis and Clermont Carn)  Bangor, Conlig and Carnmoney Hill relays - all low strength. Whitehead relay is co-channel with Clermont Carn but is low strength here and is in opposite direction - so no interference problem. I do manual scans for the required Ch numbers.

Any heavy widespread rain between Clermont Carn and here degrades the signal. I don't really want to put a heavier/higher aerial on our chimney. 

We used to live in the shade of the hill at Bryansburn in Bangor West - was in analogue times. Cambret Hill medium power relay in south-west Scotland was the transmitter of choice. Darvel (Ayrshire, Scotland) and Caldbeck ( Cumbria, England) were viewable during tropospheric lift conditions. I have not recently done any scanning for signals from UK mainland.

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Iderown wrote: »

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The aerial arrangement is shown. There is a relatively clear path to the south west.

Top of mast is the group CD vertically polarised aerial aimed at Clermont Carn. It is south west of here.
Lower is the group A horizontally polarised areial aimed at Divis and Black Mountain. They are west south west of here.
Just outside the photo, near the bottom of the mast, there is an amplifier in the Clermont Carn aerial feed. The signals are passively combined inside the house.

When I do a scan of channels I can see (along with Divis and Clermont Carn)  Bangor, Conlig and Carnmoney Hill relays - all low strength. Whitehead relay is co-channel with Clermont Carn but is low strength here and is in opposite direction - so no interference problem. I do manual scans for the required Ch numbers.

Any heavy widespread rain between Clermont Carn and here degrades the signal. I don't really want to put a heavier/higher aerial on our chimney. 

We used to live in the shade of the hill at Bryansburn in Bangor West - was in analogue times. Cambret Hill medium power relay in south-west Scotland was the transmitter of choice. Darvel (Ayrshire, Scotland) and Caldbeck ( Cumbria, England) were viewable during tropospheric lift conditions. I have not recently done any scanning for signals from UK mainland.

Many thanks for very interesting info. Am I right in saying that since DSO it is more difficult to pick up signals from Scotland/England than in analogue days? I know you've moved house which affects reception across the Irish Sea but I get impression from posts on this and other forums that analogue days were better for reception eastwards than post DSO.