rotation of directors in a omc

beaufoy

I am a member of an apartment complex OMC, in the legal papers it states directors have to be rotated.I looked up the rules on rotation and they say the directors have to resign in turn, but they also say the director resigning is allowed to stand for re-election. In theory therefore a director can wait for an AGM (where there might be 20 of 200 members) resign and then ask for immediate re-election...please explain

CIARAN_BOYLE

what seems to be the problem. it would be usual to resign and to vote on directors at an agm.

so if there is 3 directors they would have to resign in 3 successive agms and face the members that are at the agm.

if you have a problem with the director you need to show up at the age and vote against them.

what is your problem with that?

davo10

Board members are volunteers, most that I know would be delighted to stand down at the AGM, the problem tends to be finding replacements. A new board is elected each year and nominees are asked for, few if any want there names put forward.

Op if you want a Director to stand down, just put yourself forward or nominate someone else, chances are the Director will be up out of his/her seat before you have a chance to change your mind. As someone who was a Board member for 5 years, I can assure you it is a complete pain in the backside. It's amazing how much noise is made by those who don't want to do anything themselves.

beaufoy

Changing the subject a little my grand father was named Healey Boyle (same surname as you) he was in canada when my mother was born....would you have any ideas how i could trace my family tree???

beaufoy

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

what seems to be the problem. it would be usual to resign and to vote on directors at an agm.

so if there is 3 directors they would have to resign in 3 successive agms and face the members that are at the agm.

if you have a problem with the director you need to show up at the age and vote against them.

what is your problem with that?

Changing the subject a little my grand father was named Healey Boyle (same surname as you) he was in canada when my mother was born....would you have any ideas how i could trace my family tree???

beaufoy

People are asking what my problem is with the present system in relation to rotation of directors.
The answer is I do not have a problem with it, but cannot see the point to it if it is carried out as it would seem to be.
Obviously it is supposed to stop corruption. Now in England senior police officers are rotated from constabulary to constabulary seemingly to prevent them getting too involved in corruption at their local lodge, and to a certain degree the system works. However, as far as OMC's are concerned the date time and location of an AGM is controlled by the main sitting director, and it is easier for him to control the attendance and mood of the attendies. Therefore should a director wish to continue in his position he can rigg the vote to help himself

davo10

beaufoy wrote: »

People are asking what my problem is with the present system in relation to rotation of directors.
The answer is I do not have a problem with it, but cannot see the point to it if it is carried out as it would seem to be.
Obviously it is supposed to stop corruption. Now in England senior police officers are rotated from constabulary to constabulary seemingly to prevent them getting too involved in corruption at their local lodge, and to a certain degree the system works. However, as far as OMC's are concerned the date time and location of an AGM is controlled by the main sitting director, and it is easier for him to control the attendance and mood of the attendies. Therefore should a director wish to continue in his position he can rigg the vote to help himself

Corruption? Directors are unpaid volunteers, decisions are made at AGMs by majority vote, and all members of MCs have equal rights, how could Directors benefit from corruption?

Paulw

beaufoy wrote: »

People are asking what my problem is with the present system in relation to rotation of directors.
However, as far as OMC's are concerned the date time and location of an AGM is controlled by the main sitting director, and it is easier for him to control the attendance and mood of the attendies. Therefore should a director wish to continue in his position he can rigg the vote to help himself

The time, place and agenda for the AGM is set by the board of directors, not one person. Every member of the OMC is invited, so who attends is not controlled at all. Also, if enough members don't show up, and a quorum isn't formed, then the meeting must be postponed and reconvened.

As a member of the OMC, any person can be proposed and elected at an AGM. Very simple. The same way that any sitting director can be removed if they do not get the votes. Any company must have a minimum of 2 directors, but can have many other directors too.

737max

My sad story which is only partially related to what the OP is asking about.

I was secretary/director for a management company for an estate in which I lived and owned. I couldn't resign as nobody would volunteer to take over and we were often lucky to get a quorum. I just kept getting re-elected by myself and a handful of other people. hated it.
some didn't feel up to the responsibility. some felt they wouldn't be able to correspond with other residents or deal with accounts. some saw the troublesome residents and didn't want to have to coerce them to behave with respect for their neighbours or pay their management fees but were very quick to tell me that I should sort them out.
I had people thinking I was the caretaker and general dogsbody, coming to me at all times of the night to get paperwork sorted, accusing me of being in it for the fees when I never took a directors fee all the time i was there, boyfriends of residents who didn't want to pay the management fee calling to my door insinuating that I should back off or else, making me out to be a busybody because I wouldn't let them erect satellite dishes beside other peoples windows and to the front of buildings or asking them to stop obstructing or making life of neighbours unpleasant in other ways when I just wanted a quiet life.

No agent would have been interested in a small management company like this except for an extortionate fee.

I kept the secretary position until i sold my apartment because I could get no one else to do it but the management company was extant, had insurance and a sinking fund and conveyancing could be done at time of sale. After me they appointed an agent and fees went up over 100%.

The block was distant from dublin city centre and a good architect would have been able to fit in as many two storey townhouses as apartments. Blame the county council for the apartments.

If you have a management company make sure it functions or you'll have huge problems trying to sell. It is the only reason I put up with the misery of being the secretary/director but it made the time that I lived in the apartment block very unpleasant.

hullaballoo

This adulting is very difficult all right.

Don't know how anyone does it.

737max

hullaballoo wrote: »

This adulting is very difficult all right.

Don't know how anyone does it.

I've got news for you; Most adults happen to be over 18 but don't behave like responsible adults.