Checking eurostars

grassroot1

Is there anyway of checking the eurostars on a heifer not in your herd?

GiantPencil

you'd need her tag number in order to check it on the ICBF search

patsy_mccabe

The owner of the heifer also has to be in either HerdPLus or the BDGP (Genomics Scheme).

grassroot1

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

The owner of the heifer also has to be in either HerdPLus or the BDGP (Genomics Scheme).

yep I have only discovered this today ICBF are brilliant truly brilliant

tellmeabit

Looking at a purebred Angus cow at the mo but yet man hasn't gotten stars, not in schemes. Any way around this?

blue5000

tellmeabit wrote: »

Looking at a purebred Angus cow at the mo but yet man hasn't gotten stars, not in schemes. Any way around this?

Is she registered?

tellmeabit

He says she is.

tanko

Maybe he knows well what her eurostar figures are which are crap and he doesnt want you to know them.
Have you tried putting her tag number into the search on icbf.com?

tellmeabit

Yep no joy. Her calf from last year has stars. It's a bull, does the search show for females? I'll ring icbf this afternoon and see what they say. Thanks

tanko

The search shows stars for females if their owner is in herdplus or the genomics scheme.

tellmeabit

He is neither. Was hoping that being pbr that they may be some way to see.

wiggy123

who she registered with,, irish angus? or Aberdeen angus crowd? get her name of him..they can fire on a tag number to you then

tellmeabit

Just notice that herdplus are doing a months free trial. Might as him to sign up to it

john mayo 10

Whats to be gained by signing up to herdplus? Can't we already check star ratings of animals outside or inside our herds on the icbf website

wiggy123

no you cannot

wiggy123

where see the free month?

tellmeabit

I have tag number but doesn't return on icbf. Rang them and they said can't do nothing

wiggy123

what tag number..putting it in tight?

tellmeabit

i have the cows tag number.
sorry it was herdplus that is offering a free month trial
https://www.herdwatch.ie/

kollegeknight

tellmeabit wrote: »

I have tag number but doesn't return on icbf. Rang them and they said can't do nothing

If you want to pm me the number and I can try check through my herd plus account.

tellmeabit

I don't think it matters if you are in herdplus. The herd owner of animal needs to be in it. I was going to set him up for the months trial but not certain it will show the stars. Will try it nothing to be lost

kollegeknight

tellmeabit wrote: »

I don't think it matters if you are in herdplus. The herd owner of animal needs to be in it. I was going to set him up for the months trial but not certain it will show the stars. Will try it nothing to be lost

I wondered that before,
If the animal was worth a few grand and you wanted to be sure, couldn’t you register him and check the stars, kind of like a cartell for cows.

tanko

The months free trial is for herdwatch not herdplus.

kollegeknight

tanko wrote: »

The months free trial is for herdwatch not herdplus.

But If you were buying a number of heifers or a pbr cow that you wanted, I reckon it’d be worth the €60

I know there is no guarantee there is data though

Never wrestle with pigs

Bit of a ****e when your in herdplus and you can't check females you want to buy. They'll have to change that.

You said you have her brothers tag. Can you co into him and check his sire and dam add their values and divide by two should give you a rough guide?

As said above the aa society should be able to help you out.

patsy_mccabe

What I've often done also is check similar breeding on the herd database. It should be close enough to gave you an idea of the stars.

For example, if the cow was by Bull A and the bull was sired by Bull B, I'd search for similar animals with that breeding.

oneten

Try checking her in the online herdbook from the Angus society, if she is pbr she has to have a rating,, surely ?

Just checked meself it seems its just ebv's on the angus site,, uk style rating

Bellview

Never wrestle with pigs wrote:

As said above the aa society should be able to help you out.

One question have you seen the cow and do ypu like her...if answer is yes the stars should be a side issue...i have culled 5 stars because they are ****e and i have 1 stars doing a great job in my angus herd. I could sell you 5 stars cows ...but trust me you would never walk into my yard again as i would be conning you if i sold them..hence off to the factory is my solution for ****e
The society unlikely to help on stars. Couple of option get the guy selling to contact icbf as it's his data so to check stars. Another option is ask owner name of sire of cow ..you can check sire if his stars are OK or not..if the sire is high in stars chances are she is ok also.

Never wrestle with pigs

When searching icbf for bulls is there a way to filter bulls so I can search for milk? Say I want to see the top bulls for milk?

charolais0153

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

When searching icbf for bulls is there a way to filter bulls so I can search for milk? Say I want to see the top bulls for milk?

Find the active bull list and sort from milk iirc

patsy_mccabe

Ya download the excel file, add table, sort for milk. You can also filter out the low reliability values. I could do it for you, if you like. Which breed?

White Clover

Patsy, I'm snowed under at work with the last month, could I delegate a few jobs to you over boards.ie? Be much appreciated!!

patsy_mccabe

White Clover wrote: »

Patsy, I'm snowed under at work with the last month, could I delegate a few jobs to you over boards.ie? Be much appreciated!!

Sure. You know what they say - If you want something done, ask a busy man.

Never wrestle with pigs

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Ya download the excel file, add table, sort for milk. You can also filter out the low reliability values. I could do it for you, if you like. Which breed?

I'm crap with computers ha. I'm looking for sims with good milk. Thanks patsy

I went into icbf beef replacement bulls, hit filter but I can't see a drop down for milk.

tanko

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

I'm crap with computers ha. I'm looking for sims with good milk. Thanks patsy

I went into icbf beef replacement bulls, hit filter but I can't see a drop down for milk.

Thats because there isnt one there for milk, like Patsy says you have to download the excel file and look there. Dont ask me how you do it tho.

Patsy, can you do it for Sims and lims??

patsy_mccabe

Limousin Bulls with Milk.
Source www.ICBF.com
Values are for bulls with Milk reliability over 80% and sorted with best bulls at top.
Only bulls above average are shown (above 50 precentile).

patsy_mccabe

Simmental Bulls with Milk.
Source www.ICBF.com
Values are for bulls with Milk reliability over 80% and sorted with best bulls at top.
Only bulls above 40 precentile are shown.

tanko

Thanks Patsy but most of those bulls arent available any more, theyre hardly on the active bull list.

patsy_mccabe

Active bulls as above for Limousins.

Never wrestle with pigs

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Limousin Bulls with Milk.
Source www.ICBF.com
Values are for bulls with Milk reliability over 80% and sorted with best bulls at top.
Only bulls above average are shown (above 50 precentile).

Thanks patsy your a star