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buying second hand leaf- Getting chargepoint fitted

  • 25-10-2017 8:27am
    #1
    Snakeblood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭


    Hi all,

    I'm just wondering if anyone else bought a second hand leaf, AND they decided to get someone to fit the charge point (I'm a bit nervous of doing it myself), who they went with and how much it cost. Are there any recommendations on particular Charge points to get?. I'd take a DM on it if people aren't allowed publicly talk about it or name and shame.

    To be honest I've only seen the one website  (from googling) that offers domestic installation, so if anyone had a list, either that'd be really handy.
    Thanks!


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  • #2
    KCross
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,186 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Here is some info on what you need to get if you buy the charge point yourself:
    Any electrician will be able to fit it for you. Its just an outdoor socket to them. Do you know any electricians?

    Ensure that you get at least 6mm2 cable put in.
    Around €600 give or take, is what it will cost if you source the materials yourself. Cheaper if you buy a s/h unit on flea bay.

    A few other small things to consider:
    - EV's generally have two charge speed options for home... 3.3kW(16A) and 6.6kW(32A). You need to ask which rate the car has before you buy it.
    - Do you have an electric shower in the house? If yes, you will have to install a priority switch if you want a 32A charge point and a 6.6kW car as it would not be recommended to have both on at the same time. This will increase your costs by €150ish.
    - The alternative to the priority switch is to just get a 16A charge point.
    - If you don't have an electric shower then all is good. Get a 32A charge point to future proof it as it will charge 3.3kW and 6.6kW cars.


  • #3
    Snakeblood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    Awesome, thanks. This is exactly whats I was looking for. 
    Actually I do know one. I might give him a shout.
    I have a pressurised shower, like, an intrinsic one in a new build, not like a triton fitted to the bathroom itself, would that qualify? There's certainly electricity involved pushing the water around, I think but not heating within the unit.
    I'm getting the 3.3 kwh car, I was wondering about upgrade-ability if I eventually got another car to charge also.


  • #4
    KCross
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,186 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Snakeblood wrote: »
    Awesome, thanks. This is exactly whats I was looking for. 
    Actually I do know one. I might give him a shout.
    I have a pressurised shower, like, an intrinsic one in a new build, not like a triton fitted to the bathroom itself, would that qualify? There's certainly electricity involved pushing the water around, I think but not heating within the unit.
    I'm getting the 3.3 kwh car, I was wondering about upgrade-ability if I eventually got another car to charge also.

    A power shower is fine. Its the 8-10kW electric showers that heat the water as it comes through, you'd have an issue with.

    Just to be clear... you can't really upgrade the car itself from 3.3 to 6.6. Its technically possible but not worth it.
    Regardless of getting a 3.3 or 6.6kW car I'd still put in a 32A charge point with appropriately rated cable.

    Or at the very least put in the correct cable as that is the hardest bit. You don't want to be pulling new cables in a few years time. Swapping the charge point itself out in a few years is simple (a few bolts). So, 6mm2 cable at a minimum. 10mm2 if its a long run(20m)


  • #5
    Snakeblood
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    Ah yes, I meant the port upgrade, not changing the car's setup from 3.3 to 6.6. That's perfect, thanks for being so helpful.


  • #6
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    I was just about to start a thread and seen this, sorry to jump on this thread.

    The second electric car is been dropped off to family at weekend. Included with car is PodPoint tethered charger. 16A

    I want to have electrician ready to install charge point but for life of me I cannot remember the cable he needs to buy to run from meter box.

    Would anyone know please? I want to ring him later

    Thanks


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  • #7
    KCross
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,186 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I was just about to start a thread and seen this, sorry to jump on this thread.

    The second electric car is been dropped off to family at weekend. Included with car is PodPoint tethered charger. 16A

    I want to have electrician ready to install charge point but for life of me I cannot remember the cable he needs to buy to run from meter box.

    Would anyone know please? I want to ring him later

    Thanks

    How long a run is it from distribution board to charge point?
    And is the run all inside the house/attic or is there an outside element to it as well?

    Rough guide.... 6mm2 cable if its less than 20m run. 10mm2 if its >20m

    If the cable is exposed outside (under driveway etc) you will need SWA cable... much more expensive!

    Examples here:
    normal cable... https://www.eurosales.ie/products/TE6242Y.html
    SWA cable: https://www.eurosales.ie/products/3SWAAMCBL.html


  • #8
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    KCross wrote: »
    How long a run is it from distribution board to charge point?
    And is the run all inside the house/attic or is there an outside element to it as well?

    Rough guide.... 6mm2 cable if its less than 20m run. 10mm2 if its >20m

    If the cable is exposed outside you will need SWA cable... much more expensive!

    Maybe 5m run. They have separate fuse board in garage so we are going to run from that and just drill hole straight through wall.....


  • #9
    KCross
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    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Maybe 5m run. They have separate fuse board in garage so we are going to run from that and just drill hole straight through wall.....

    Standard cable is all you need then.

    Has an electrician already looked at the feed to the garage and determined that there is enough power to take an EVSE?

    You need to eyeball the main cable coming into the garage. Its probably OK since its a 16A EVSE but it should be looked at anyway in case someone cut corners at the time. You could have 14A+ being used on the EVSE and then some lights and maybe power tools and it could overload things.


  • #10
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    KCross wrote: »
    Standard cable is all you need then.

    Has an electrician already looked at the feed to the garage and determined that there is enough power to take an EVSE?

    You need to eyeball the main cable coming into the garage. Its probably OK since its a 16A EVSE but it should be looked at anyway in case someone cut corners at the time. You could have 14A+ being used on the EVSE and then some lights and maybe power tools and it could overload things.

    yeah he is going to look at all of that, if not the fuse board in main house is also easily accessed but would prefer not to drill hole into house.....


  • #11
    goz83
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    Snakeblood wrote: »
    Ah yes, I meant the port upgrade, not changing the car's setup from 3.3 to 6.6. That's perfect, thanks for being so helpful.

    You’re better off getting a 32A EVSE. There is usually no price difference. It will charge either a 3.3 or 6.6, as the car will decide how much power will be drawn.


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