Installing ROS on new machine when I don't have access to the old machine

mrcheez

What's involved in gaining access to ROS on a new machine?

I don't have access to the old key at present. I do know the password but I recall that something had to be posted out to you a few years ago.

Is it now just a simple login as with PayPal etc?

Skippette

Try and see if you can register again as your cert may be expired. If so when you complete step 1 a RAN is posted out to you. You then apply for a system password which you will receive by text or email so you can download your cert.

If it doesn't allow you to reg again as it says the cert is still active, email roshelp@revenue.ie, put revoke in the subject bar and on the email say you have a new computer and no access to the old one, include your name and tax reg.

They will cancel your cert and you can then apply for a new one

mrcheez

Wow ok thanks. ROS is the only system that requires such things are posted out to you if changing machine, whereas banking systems relies solely on a key that you keep private, but you can still access from anywhere.

L1011

ROS lets you transfer the certs very easily from machine to machine; most banks don't. Swings and roundabouts really.

For sole traders who do their own IT it becomes a problem; but if someone works in IT in Ireland and isn't aware of the roscerts folder they need re-education urgently.

mrcheez

L1011 wrote: »

ROS lets you transfer the certs very easily from machine to machine; most banks don't. Swings and roundabouts really.

For sole traders who do their own IT it becomes a problem; but if someone works in IT in Ireland and isn't aware of the roscerts folder they need re-education urgently.

Not really a valid argument, it's an outdated approach linking your login to a specific machine particularly in the age of cloud computing.

The progressive approach is that you should be able to login to ROS from ANYWHERE. If you are in work or abroad and you don't happen to have access to a copy of your cert, or if your house burns down, you suddenly cannot access ROS.

Stupid decision.

exaisle

mrcheez wrote: »

Not really a valid argument, it's an outdated approach linking your login to a specific machine particularly in the age of cloud computing.

The progressive approach is that you should be able to login to ROS from ANYWHERE. If you are in work or abroad and you don't happen to have access to a copy of your cert, or if your house burns down, you suddenly cannot access ROS.

Stupid decision.

It's the public service....what do you expect?

mrcheez

These systems are normally developed by Accenture or similar who should have known better

Skippette

When you download the cert and back it up it normally saves to your downloads folder.

If you want to put a copy of the file e.g. .p12.bac in the "cloud" you can. You can then access it from any computer.

You could also back it up on a usb key if you wanted.

In fairness if your house burnt down the least of your problems would be getting a replacement ROS cert

mrcheez

Skippette wrote: »

When you download the cert and back it up it normally saves to your downloads folder.

If you want to put a copy of the file e.g. .p12.bac in the "cloud" you can. You can then access it from any computer.

You could also back it up on a usb key if you wanted.

In fairness if your house burnt down the least of your problems would be getting a replacement ROS cert

Again not a valid argument.

What if I don't have access to a computer that allows you to gain access to the C: drive? What if I want to get on using a tablet/phone?

Do you actually walk around with your key in a USB everywhere you go?

It's an outdated stupid approach to security.



Having your house burnt down doesn't excuse you from filing your returns, so it would be an additional burden should you lose it all in an inferno

K.Flyer

I changed machines and you just log in to ROS from the new machine and just download the cert again.
It's when you lose your password that they have to post out the password to you.

mrcheez

K.Flyer wrote: »

I changed machines and you just log in to ROS from the new machine and just download the cert again.
It's when you lose your password that they have to post out the password to you.

hmm nope it's saying "Load Certificate" on this machine I'm trying from?


EDIT: actually I think I found it

https://www.ros.ie/ros-registration-web/ros-registration;rjsessionid=21CA935648D4A5003BD964D3B5365764?execution=e1s2