days in lieu question

Mr.H

So I am full time and have been with this well known cafe for a couple of years.

We work on bank holidays and receive a day in lieu. Because we (full time) are salary, we do not receive premium pay for Sunday's or bank holidays. Recently they have informed us that we are no longer able to take our lieu day alongside our standard weekly rest days or our annual leave days. So I must work a day, take my lieu day and work another day. That's the only way we are allowed to take our lieu days.

On top of this we are also not allowed to add rest days to our annual leave days to extend our time off. For example (our working week is Fri-Thursday) if I was taking annual leave from Friday to Tuesday, I obviously must take Wednesday and Thursday as my days off because you must have two rest days a week. But I can't extend my holidays with rest days on either side of that week.

To be clear I am an assistant manager here. My manager has no issue with it and we have often talked about using our days this way as we get very few perks working the way we do.

My question is to anyone who knows this stuff. Is the company within their rights in all the above?

LincolnHawk

Does it matter? It's their policy and if you're going to try and challenge them on it you may as well just leave

screamer

Yes they are. So long as they don't break the organisation of working time act they are within their rights to do this. I know of another company (big well known company) and weekend workers are sometimes rostered to do 12 days in a row before getting a time in lieu day ( and there you can't even ask for s special ific day off) it's rostered and rarely a Monday or Friday.

Mr.H

LincolnHawk wrote:

Does it matter? It's their policy and if you're going to try and challenge them on it you may as well just leave

Does it matter? Yea kinda.

In any 9-5 job you would have your bank holiday along side your weekend giving you a long weekend. But because I am not 9-5 (and wouldn't be as well paid), I am not entitled to a long weekend?

Don't get me wrong I am not some entitled young fella who is annoyed about being asked to work. I am a hard worker who earns every cent of my just shove minimum wage. In fact part timers on minimum wage are paid more (because of their premium) than I am on a Sunday.

I just think this attitude of not allowing a worker to take a "long weekend" with their day in lieu and weekly rest days is petty?

The mindset is that I am stealing holidays from them (this is what I was told by HR. Wasn't talking about me, but right everyone).

Am I really in the wrong?

Mr.H

screamer wrote:

Yes they are. So long as they don't break the organisation of working time act they are within their rights to do this. I know of another company (big well known company) and weekend workers are sometimes rostered to do 12 days in a row before getting a time in lieu day ( and there you can't even ask for s special ific day off) it's rostered and rarely a Monday or Friday.

I just don't understand why a company would treat employees that way.

I get it if it's a huge place of work (obviously a supermarket would have a lot more than a shop or cafe for example) and it was difficult to look after people. But surely you can try to let staff haves life outside work?

I do rotas regularly and try my best to ensure everyone gets their two days off in a row. Where it is part timers(who might not work 5 days) I try to make sure that they also have at least one period of two days off in a row each week.

Being nice and grateful to staff is not difficult.

BrokenArrows

Are they within their rights. Yes they are.

Does it suck. Yes

Should you try and fight it. Yes.

Should you still be working there. No.

If you are an assistant manager who is just above minimum wage then i suggest you give yourself a kick and find a better paying job which with any management experience should be pretty easy.