Postcolonial Hang-up

Ray Palmer · 13-10-2017 6:48pm #1

I have for a long time thought the worst part of the culture in this country is down to postcolonial hang-ups. The general if you can get a way with it you are a genius rather than you just don't care about anybody but yourself.

Now obviously Ireland has had a huge influx of many nationalities but the interesting thing is many new Irish are also postcolonial cultures but at different points and also with some different authorities

How many generations before it is gone or will it be there forever?

Erik Shin · 13-10-2017 6:50pm

I think it's going to be a long night, ....I need a drink!

Are Am Eye · 13-10-2017 6:51pm

Ray Palmer wrote: »

How many generations before it is gone or will it be there forever?

If someone colonises us at some point in the future then the preceding decades or centuries will be our Pre-Colonial Time

Who knows? we could be a Pre Colonial society right now.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 13-10-2017 6:52pm

Are Am Eye wrote: »

If someone colonises us at some point in the future then the preceding decades or centuries will be our Pre-Colonial Time

Who knows? we could be a Pre Colonial society right now.

The lizard people are already here...

Ulysses Gaze · 13-10-2017 6:55pm

Erik Shin wrote: »

I think it's going to be a long night, ....I need a drink!

I'll start a tab...

maryishere · 13-10-2017 6:57pm

Colonised by Brussels, dem foreigners are takin all our fish, 120 billion worth.

Wait till our kids are conscripted in to an EU army

"EU army inevitable, says senior German official"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/19/eu-army-inevitable-says-senior-german-official/

Are Am Eye · 13-10-2017 6:58pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

The lizard people are already here...

I was thinking of the Chinese. Maybe a Chinese - Russian confederation.
What lets the Reptilians down badly in empire building is their non existence.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 13-10-2017 6:58pm

maryishere wrote: »

Colonised by Brussels, dem foreigners are takin all our fish, 120 billion worth.

They're gonna need a bigger boat...

lazybones32 · 13-10-2017 7:00pm

I blame the Brits for our post-colonial issues.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 13-10-2017 7:01pm

Post-colonial hang-ups? No, just people looking for an excuse. Or overthinking things.

Ipso · 13-10-2017 7:02pm

lazybones32 wrote: »

I blame the Brits for our post-colonial issues.

They keep making people vote for FF.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 13-10-2017 7:03pm

Are Am Eye wrote: »

I was thinking of the Chinese. Maybe a Chinese - Russian confederation.
What lets the Reptilians down badly in empire building is their non existence.

Dragons, lizards, same thing.

maryishere · 13-10-2017 7:05pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

They're gonna need a bigger boat...

You would be surprised...
"Currently, 1.2 million tonnes of fish are caught in Irish waters per year. This is the EU’s annual cap on the amount of fish that can be caught in the entirety of Ireland’s territorial waters. Therefore, only 20pc, or 250,000 tonnes, of Irish fish is landed in Ireland. The rest goes abroad."
http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2015/05/21/there-is-gold-in-them-there-shoals-so-why-are-we-not-reeling-it-in

Are Am Eye · 13-10-2017 7:09pm

maryishere wrote: »

You would be surprised...
"Currently, 1.2 million tonnes of fish are caught in Irish waters per year. This is the EU’s annual cap on the amount of fish that can be caught in the entirety of Ireland’s territorial waters. Therefore, only 20pc, or 250,000 tonnes, of Irish fish is landed in Ireland. The rest goes abroad."
http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2015/05/21/there-is-gold-in-them-there-shoals-so-why-are-we-not-reeling-it-in

David McWilliams foresaw the unfavorable EU fishing terms before anyone else. He warned us.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 13-10-2017 7:11pm

maryishere wrote: »

You would be surprised...
"Currently, 1.2 million tonnes of fish are caught in Irish waters per year. This is the EU’s annual cap on the amount of fish that can be caught in the entirety of Ireland’s territorial waters. Therefore, only 20pc, or 250,000 tonnes, of Irish fish is landed in Ireland. The rest goes abroad."
http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2015/05/21/there-is-gold-in-them-there-shoals-so-why-are-we-not-reeling-it-in

It was 120 billion a minute ago (although in fairness you didn't specify what: fish or tonnes). I'm wondering now if it's not a ploy of the fish peopel to move into a more central strategic position?

Ipso · 13-10-2017 7:11pm

Remember back in the day when there was 0 unemployment when everyone worked in fishing. Maybe a lot of fish ends up overseas because the price is better.

maryishere · 13-10-2017 7:16pm

Ipso wrote: »

Remember back in the day when there was 0 unemployment when everyone worked in fishing. Maybe a lot of fish ends up overseas because the price is better.

4/5 of it cannot be caught by Irish boats though, we gave 4/5 to the EU under the quota system. Read the article.
http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2015/05/21/there-is-gold-in-them-there-shoals-so-why-are-we-not-reeling-it-in

tomwaterford · 13-10-2017 7:18pm

maryishere wrote: »

4/5 of it cannot be caught by Irish boats though, we gave 4/5 to the EU under the quota system. Read the article.

Why can it not be landed in ireland though??

Only obvious conclusion is the sh1te price paid by processers?

maryishere · 13-10-2017 7:20pm

tomwaterford wrote: »

Why can it not be landed in ireland though??

Its cheaper for the foreigners to take the fish out of Irish waters and have nothing to do with Ireland.

tomwaterford · 13-10-2017 7:22pm

maryishere wrote: »

Its cheaper for the foreigners to take the fish out of Irish waters and have nothing to do with Ireland.

How??

Surely if they got sufficient amount for the fish, they'd sell it here??

It makes no logical sense to suggest otherwise?

maryishere · 13-10-2017 7:34pm

tomwaterford wrote: »

How??

Surely if they got sufficient amount for the fish, they'd sell it here??

It makes no logical sense to suggest otherwise?

lol. read the McWilliams article.

Maybe Sinn Fein will suggest setting up a quango to buy all the fish the EU steals from our waters?

tomwaterford · 13-10-2017 7:37pm

maryishere wrote: »

lol. read the McWilliams article.

Maybe Sinn Fein will suggest setting up a quango to buy all the fish the EU steals from our waters?

I did

Nowhere deos it say we can't buy the fish??
Obviously they are taking it back to where they can get the most money??

The money is in processing it,not catching it??

I'm somewhat at a loss as to what your point is tbh

Ipso · 13-10-2017 7:40pm

I think there is a case to be made about quotas but even Irish boats will land over seas for better prices and if Ireland was left to its own devices I'd give the fish stocks ten years given Ireland's short sightedness (remember the property bubble, prices only go up etc).
More of the Ireland is a victim stuff to be honest.

RiderOnTheStorm · 13-10-2017 7:42pm

I think we should hand back the occupied 26 & ask Lizzie to sort out our hospitals, roads, and fishing...

maryishere · 13-10-2017 7:47pm

RiderOnTheStorm wrote: »

I think we should hand back the occupied 26 & ask Lizzie to sort out our hospitals, roads, and fishing...

and allow us to buy cheap cars and tobacco, without high taxes

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 13-10-2017 8:12pm

maryishere wrote: »

and allow us to buy cheap cars and tobacco, without high taxes

Give them to Angela and we can also buy cheap non-mimimum-price booze...

maryishere · 13-10-2017 8:38pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Give them to Angela and we can also buy cheap non-mimimum-price booze...

That would be bad for us, give us marks 'n sparks, not aldi.

And let us keep all of the 1.2 million tonnes of fish which are caught in Irish waters per year, instead of the EU fishermen/women taking four-fifths of it back home out of our waters.

wexandproud · 13-10-2017 8:40pm

tomwaterford wrote: »

Why can it not be landed in ireland though??

Only obvious conclusion is the sh1te price paid by processers?

some of the dutch , belgian and french boats steam back to their home countries as it eliminates the risk of being inspected on landing but a lot of spanish boats land in castletownbere , the island there is known locally as 'spanish island' . Most of the fish caught by these boats are high value when sold fresh and are not usually processed , fish like hake , monk's , sole , megrim etc
there is something wrong when a country that has some of the richest fishing grounds in europe has to import cod from the uk as irish boats don't have the quota to fill its own demand

lazybones32 · 13-10-2017 8:51pm

Some of the larger fishing boats are floating factories that process on board and who thinks they obey quotas?
Ireland is a small fish in the EU fish bowl; of course we're going to get fcuked over.

TS, i say.

13-10-2017 9:02pm

tomwaterford wrote: »

I'm somewhat at a loss as to what your point is tbh

I think Maryishere's point is that the EU is the great Satan herself and it would all be so much better if the Irish could return to the glory days of being the pissing pot for British thugs in British uniforms occupying our country and British thugs with affected accents profiting from our land and labour.

Yeah, pretty much the same point he's been making since forever.

Thank God for the EU saving us from being at the eternal mercy of centuries more of his heroes and their "British Isles" jingoism.

Archeron · 13-10-2017 9:15pm

I read that as post colonic hangups. Dangleberries!!

whisky_galore · 14-10-2017 8:06am

Post-colonialism is just looking for an excuse for our own shortcomings.

The British are long gone, there's next to no one left alive from that era, we just fcuk over our own people now.

Chester Copperpot · 14-10-2017 8:26am

maryishere wrote: »

That would be bad for us, give us marks 'n sparks, not aldi.

And let us keep all of the 1.2 million tonnes of fish which are caught in Irish waters per year, instead of the EU fishermen/women taking four-fifths of it back home out of our waters.

And who is going to eat the 1.2 million tonnes of fish? Irish people are not big on fish and we wouldn't have a ready European market. Catch em and dump em

wexandproud · 14-10-2017 8:57am

Chester Copperpot wrote: »

And who is going to eat the 1.2 million tonnes of fish? Irish people are not big on fish and we wouldn't have a ready European market. Catch em and dump em

no ready european market , are you joking or what . european market cant get enough fish why do you think they import that farmed sh1te .. even if ireland got a fairer share of the quota it would only fill the gaps created by someone else's reduction in quota.
plus a lot of fresh fish and even live shellfish now being flown to china from ireland

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 14-10-2017 11:55am

So, this post-colonial thing is to do with fish...?

wexandproud · 14-10-2017 12:16pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

So, this post-colonial thing is to do with fish...?

haven't a clue . just responding to other comments

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 14-10-2017 12:58pm

wexandproud wrote: »

haven't a clue . just responding to other comments

Yeah, fair enough. I think Mary started it.

Erik Shin · 14-10-2017 1:49pm

There a bigger bang of fish from this thread than off Molly Malone!

Postcolonial Hang-up

Comments