slurry spreading extension

cute geoge

Are lads applying to the dept. for an extension to spread and then wait for a inspection .
Does anyone know what this inspection entails ???
Will the lads who dont take the rules too serious be better off!!!

rangler1

cute geoge wrote: »

Are lads applying to the dept. for an extension to spread and then wait for a inspection .
Does anyone know what this inspection entails ???
Will the lads who dont take the rules too serious be better off!!!

They'll be targeting the amount of slurry storage you have, but could be full cross compliance

Muckit

As rangler1 has said don't even think about it. You will be drawing a guaranteed cross compliance inspection on yourself. And there isn't a farmyard in the country where they wouldn't find something and Impose a penalty on you.

Hard Knocks

Muckit wrote: »

As rangler1 has said don't even think about it. You will be drawing a guaranteed cross compliance inspection on yourself. And there isn't a farmyard in the country where they wouldn't find something and Impose a penalty on you.

True but what other options do guys with full tanks have

rangler1

Muckit wrote: »

As rangler1 has said don't even think about it. You will be drawing a guaranteed cross compliance inspection on yourself. And there isn't a farmyard in the country where they wouldn't find something and Impose a penalty on you.

I didn't really say that, cross compliance shouldn't be a big problem now adays, plenty of years and grants to get it right.
Just really saying that it would be flagged for inspection and to get all records up to date and tags etc.
Council does a lot of drive by inspections in our county, I think they stated 900/yr in my last meeting with them so it isn't just the department that's watching

lakill Farm

rangler1 wrote: »

I didn't really say that, cross compliance shouldn't be a big problem now adays, plenty of years and grants to get it right.
Just really saying that it would be flagged for inspection and to get all records up to date and tags etc.
Council does a lot of drive by inspections in our county, I think they stated 900/yr in my last meeting with them so it isn't just the department that's watching

Same council gave me permission (emailed same to local councillor ) to spread a 3rd party septic tank on my land In very early January 2016.

I had told them that or it was going over there car park as they refused to open a local treatment plant to tank it. They fairly changed there mind. Shower of cxnts in Westmeath.

The funny think is they wount let you spread it. But tanks of slurry flooded every year because of poor water course management.

A lot of these pencil pushers should get early retirement and buzz off.

rangler1

lakill Farm wrote: »

Same council gave me permission (emailed same to local councillor ) to spread a 3rd party septic tank on my land In very early January 2016.

I had told them that or it was going over there car park as they refused to open a local treatment plant to tank it. They fairly changed there mind. Shower of cxnts in Westmeath.

The funny think is they wount let you spread it. But tanks of slurry flooded every year because of poor water course management.

A lot of these pencil pushers should get early retirement and buzz off.

On the other hand there was some bad cases and they were never reported 'upstairs' ( Department of AG) as they called it, Same with DVO, nice and quietly sorted with out going ''Upstairs'' so they're not all bad.
Credit where credits due always.
I wouldn't have been as patient

lakill Farm

rangler1 wrote: »

On the other hand there was some bad cases and they were never reported 'upstairs' ( Department of AG) as they called it, Same with DVO, nice and quietly sorted with out going ''Upstairs'' so they're not all bad.
Credit where credits due always.
I wouldn't have been as patient

Yes in fairness your right. Sometimes that side isn't highlighted enough

It works both ways.

merryberry

[/QUOTE]They'll be targeting the amount of slurry storage you have, but could be full cross compliance[/quote]

Since when did the county councils start start doing cross compliance inspections???

Birdnuts

Slurry management in this country continues to be problematic across the board. Most of it seems to go out just when the growing season is coming to an end and the weather gets worse. Its an awfull waste of a valuable natural fert with too much still being lost to runoff into surface waters. I don't know is it still an issue with adequate storage , overstocking, poor farm managment etc. or what - eitheir way DAFM needs to get to finger out and address the issue once and for all to save farmers fert bills and the quality of our surface waters.

rangler1

merryberry wrote: »

They'll be targeting the amount of slurry storage you have, but could be full cross compliance[/quote]

Since when did the county councils start start doing cross compliance inspections???[/QUOTE]

First post said he was applying to dept of ag for an extension,
they do cross compliance, councils are always doing inspections too, just not cross compliance,, if you're high risk the're entitled to check you too, you won't even know about most of their checks, as I said, drive by checks.

merryberry

rangler1 wrote: »

First post said he was applying to dept of ag for an extension,
they do cross compliance, councils are always doing inspections too, just not cross compliance,, if you're high risk the're entitled to check you too, you won't even know about most of their checks, as I said, drive by checks.

When u apply for the extention the dept cross report u to the local authority for a nitrates type inspection. The local authority DO NOT carry out cross compliance inspections which is a completely different and more thorough type of inspection. Therefore u are incorrectly implying that a farmer is at risk of a cross compliance inspection which will not be the case.

rangler1

merryberry wrote: »

When u apply for the extention the dept cross report u to the local authority for a nitrates type inspection. The local authority DO NOT carry out cross compliance inspections which is a completely different and more thorough type of inspection. Therefore u are incorrectly implying that a farmer is at risk of a cross compliance inspection which will not be the case.

I think you're being naive there, if you buy too many tags even you can be flagged for an inspection, what do you think they are going to do if there's a chance that you haven't enough slurry storage.
I sent in my sheep census on line a couple years ago and the public service cocked it up...as soon as I ordered tags I earned myself a cross compliance.
Once anything comes up against your name it increases your chance of a cross compliance,I've a feeling you're in a position to know that.

merryberry

rangler1 wrote: »

They'll be targeting the amount of slurry storage you have, but could be full cross compliance

We'll then let me correct ur above misguided message to people who are actually concerned of the potential consequences of applying for an extension.

They'll (the local authority) be targeting the amount of slurry storage you have but (any non compliances with terms of the nitrates directive, including those not relating to slurry storage, could b cross reported back to the department of agriculture which) could (result in the farmer) be(ing selected for a) full cross compliance inspection.

rangler1

merryberry wrote: »

We'll then let me correct ur above misguided message to people who are actually concerned of the potential consequences of applying for an extension.

They'll (the local authority) be targeting the amount of slurry storage you have but (any non compliances with terms of the nitrates directive, including those not relating to slurry storage, could b cross reported back to the department of agriculture which) could (result in the farmer) be(ing selected for a) full cross compliance inspection.

I had feeling i was right, is my BPS ready to pay on monday morning.

I stiil maintain if I was looking for an extension I'd be getting my records up to date as well

merryberry

rangler1 wrote: »

I had feeling i was right, is my BPS ready to pay on monday morning.

I stiil maintain if I was looking for an extension I'd be getting my records up to date as well

Ah I see now...the off-topic patronisation tactic when found out. Lame really.

Do I work with the department - NO. How do I know the inspection procedures above - press information and farmers charter.

rangler1

merryberry wrote: »

Ah I see now...the off-topic patronisation tactic when found out. Lame really.

Do I work with the department - NO. How do I know the inspection procedures above - press information and farmers charter.

Pity everyone doesn't read the press,I see some saddos on Agriland whingeing about IFA having nothing arranged for those that need the extension.
Jokes on them, they were complaining on friday and the closing date for application to spread is Saturday, Have to say I'm delighted.

Sheep breeder

merryberry wrote: »

We'll then let me correct ur above misguided message to people who are actually concerned of the potential consequences of applying for an extension.

They'll (the local authority) be targeting the amount of slurry storage you have but (any non compliances with terms of the nitrates directive, including those not relating to slurry storage, could b cross reported back to the department of agriculture which) could (result in the farmer) be(ing selected for a) full cross compliance inspection.

The type of inspection is an LA which the local authority get the department to do for them and is only a nitrates inspection on the land and farmyard.