Someone wants to buy a print from me!!

Portlawslim

I recently posted a picture I took on a facebook page...
This is the image..
Bunmahon LE 1 by George O'Mahony, on Flickr
Up @ 6 travelled not to far, shot with a Canon 7d Mark 2+EF-S10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM With Lee Filters Landscape polariser and Hard Grad ND
Had some nice comments and praise(which is good for the ego) and also had someone who said they'd be interested in purchasing a print Here's the conversation...

2017-10-13 13_55_39-Beautiful Waterford Imagery by George O'Mahony, on Flickr

Screenshot_20171013-065728 by George O'Mahony, on Flickr

Screenshot_20171013-065809 by George O'Mahony, on Flickr

He asked if that was mounted and framed for that price!!

Screenshot_20171013-065840 by George O'Mahony, on Flickr

Screenshot_20171013-065852 by George O'Mahony, on Flickr

Screenshot_20171013-065904 by George O'Mahony, on Flickr

So Basically he wants me to give him a digital copy of my print for him to use as he wants! He also wants me to give him the print at cost!
And he thinks he can buy a camera for €170 and go and take the same photo because he thinks he has "quite a good eye"
I think I showed some restraint in my reply to him.
My question is was I too expensive or was I too nice...

frozenfrozen

Absolutely don't pass on the file, you get it printed and post it to them. If they refuse then assume they were going to do something dodgy with the file.

People buy our prints and scan them to resell, giving out a file is making it too easy for them.

The guy who asked could be genuine and probably is but you wouldn't know what kind of online service with the cheapest prices he'd submit the file to and they could do whatever with it etc.

It's a lovely picture

lenscap

You are too nice.

I think his opening comment sums it up
"I could get it printed myself and put you something towards your costs if that works"


Sell him the file for at least €300, it's your creation so you pick your price.

I have shot professionally for over 30 years and when I hear someone say " I have a good eye and I could buy a camera for that (price) "

My reply is "sure off you go and do it"

frozenfrozen

the whole story wasn't there when I replied first, neck on him like a jockeys bollocks.

Balfey1972

Brilliant,

Just thinking George, the fact that they are going to hang it in the sanctuary of a bedroom and all the wonder exposure you would get, would you not get it printed, framed, deliver it and hang it for them for free.

Maybe through in a camera for them too. Shame to see that great eye wasted.

Recently had a couple that spent over half a million renovating their new house and they were commenting on the images we had on display at a local festival. He loved one we took of their house on the estuary. We said it would make a great center piece framed. he said "sure i got the one you had on facebook and have it as my screen saver"

I did laugh. People never cease to amaze.
Great shot BTW.

dory

That's ridiculous. You definitely weren't too cheap. I'm looking at a few online now and they're €40 for regular size, 8 x 10 or something. For poster size it should definitely be more. He just belongs to the group of people who don't value art works / photos, they genuinely believe you just point and shoot so really you shouldn't be paid for that!

DaireQuinlan

:-D Agree with the above for the most part but also I must commend you for the way you dealt with him. Firm, but professional and pleasant. Maybe if he does take you up on your offer he'll have a better appreciation for what it takes.

minikin

Is it possible to block him from your flickr account?
I would be very surprised if they haven't already helped themselves to the full res file!
(why do you have the high res files publicly available?)

Portlawslim

minikin wrote: »

Is it possible to block him from your flickr account?
I would be very surprised if they haven't already helped themselves to the full res file!
(why do you have the high res files publicly available?)

I had a low res file on a local facebook page, so he won't be able to d/load it from there.

Portlawslim

DaireQuinlan wrote: »

:-D Agree with the above for the most part but also I must commend you for the way you dealt with him. Firm, but professional and pleasant. Maybe if he does take you up on your offer he'll have a better appreciation for what it takes.

That was my plan get him up at the crack of dawn hike a few miles and then sit and wait for a sunrise that won't appear repeat 2 to 3 times and then he might see the efforts us light chasers go to to get the shot!

minikin

Portlawslim wrote: »

I had a low res file on a local facebook page, so he won't be able to d/load it from there.

I'm not trying to give you a hard time here, just pointing out how easy it would be for this individual to get your full res image:
Google: "george o'mahony photo"
Fifth result on page one of the results.
Fourth image on first page of your flickr

I'm a big believer in protecting yourself by not making high res files freely available online, particularly if you (as you should) see great economic value in your skill set.

Nice work by the way!!!

Portlawslim

minikin wrote: »

I'm not trying to give you a hard time here, just pointing out how easy it would be for this individual to get your full res image:
Google: "george o'mahony photo"
Fifth result on page one of the results.
Fourth image on first page of your flickr

I'm a big believer in protecting yourself by not making high res files freely available online, particularly if you (as you should) see great economic value in your skill set.

Nice work by the way!!!

I'll need to look at my flickr settings and upload res :eek: Thanks for the heads up:)

Wailin

Hi George, yep I can download a hi res copy of that photo if I wanted to from flickr (4867x3638) and just crop out the watermark. You can adjust your settings in flickr to prevent that. Just go to settings, privacy and permissions and change the who can download your images to just you.

Portlawslim

Wailin wrote: »

Hi George, yep I can download a hi res copy of that photo if I wanted to from flickr (4867x3638) and just crop out the watermark. You can adjust your settings in flickr to prevent that. Just go to settings, privacy and permissions and change the who can download your images to just you.

I'll have to sort that Tony. Thanks

Myksyk

Portlawslim wrote: »

I'll have to sort that Tony. Thanks

Too late. We got them ALL!! (Cue maniacal laugh).

Myksyk

I'd be inclined to say:

"With respect, you should know that this shot was :

-taken with upwards of €3000 worth of gear - (body, lens, filters, tripod etc)
-shot in manual and raw, precisely focussed at its hyperlocal length to ensure sharpness from my feet to the horizon, with ND filters to allow a super long exposure
-processed with software which took effort and a long time to master
-captured after five visits to this same spot at 4am in the morning with a two hour wait on the morning the light actually played ball.

It deserves to be properly printed. And it deserves a price which reflects the skill, effort, time and cost it took to capture it."

magicbastarder

or else you could try to find out what his profession is and ask for his time at lower than cost price.

Hector Savage

I never understand the neck on some people asking for photos for either free or cheap.
Even corporations do this.

Portlawslim

Wailin wrote: »

Hi George, yep I can download a hi res copy of that photo if I wanted to from flickr (4867x3638) and just crop out the watermark. You can adjust your settings in flickr to prevent that. Just go to settings, privacy and permissions and change the who can download your images to just you.

Done Tony!

Wailin

Portlawslim wrote: »

Done Tony!

Good man George! Just had a look there and yes it's disabled

mikka631

Unfortunately it is still possible to get the image:(
When you select the large size image and try to download it does not work but if you right click and Save Page As you get all the information including the high res image

Wailin

mikka631 wrote: »

Unfortunately it is still possible to get the image:(
When you select the large size image and try to download it does not work but if you right click and Save Page As you get all the information including the high res image

Hmm, looks like the only way around it is to upload low res images from the start.

spookwoman

Only way is to upload low res and hate put an embossed watermark around the middle. B*stards will try anything to get the picture. It's also the reason why I only share from flickr to facebook to stop the downloads. As for the price thats very good and unfortunately people don't want to pay and its worse when it's locals. I'd recommend you do a reverse lookup on your pictures every so often using google

Portlawslim

spookwoman wrote: »

Only way is to upload low res and hate put an embossed watermark around the middle. B*stards will try anything to get the picture. It's also the reason why I only share from flickr to facebook to stop the downloads. As for the price thats very good and unfortunately people don't want to pay and its worse when it's locals. I'd recommend you do a reverse lookup on your pictures every so often using google

I was able to go into Lightroom and change my preset setting for the Flickr plug-in and it's now reloading my images in low res format..:)

Wailin

Portlawslim wrote: »

I was able to go into Lightroom and change my preset setting for the Flickr plug-in and it's now reloading my images in low res format..:)

So you upload direct from lightroom?? Never knew you could do that!

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Wailin wrote: »

So you upload direct from lightroom?? Never knew you could do that!

Never knew that either. Its now set up:D

Portlawslim

Wailin wrote: »

So you upload direct from lightroom?? Never knew you could do that!

Yeah doing it right from the start!
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