Mazars or Deloitte

DumbBrunette

Hi guys

I've been offered a place in this year's intake of the audit traineeship programmes at both Deloitte and Mazars.

I realise I'm very lucky to have this choice as a mature graduate but now I'm a bit panicked because I'm not sure which to accept! First world problem and all that but does anyone have any advice for me on which company is better to work for or train with here in Ireland??????

Any input would be hugely appreciated......

jcon1913

DumbBrunette wrote: »

Hi guys

I've been offered a place in this year's intake of the audit traineeship programmes at both Deloitte and Mazars.

I realise I'm very lucky to have this choice as a mature graduate but now I'm a bit panicked because I'm not sure which to accept! First world problem and all that but does anyone have any advice for me on which company is better to work for or train with here in Ireland??????

Any input would be hugely appreciated......

Mazars
Smaller outfit, good reputation amongst trainees for not overworking their staff, more exposure to accounts prep type work, and therefore a good preparation for a career as a financial controller/finance director

Deloittes
Bigger outfit, more exposure to big clients, lots more consultancy type work, great if you are not going directly into a purely accounting role after you finish.

Both will look well on your CV afterwards

PS congratulations on getting offers like this. It's hard to land an offer from one of the major firms let alone two

jonnybravo

Post qualification some companies limit their search for accountants to Big 4 trained accountants so Deloitte would be an advantage here. I personally feel you probably get better training in a smaller firm but it might limit some choices post qualification.

youngrun

Deloitte

HeinekenTicket

Start in Mazars until you qualify - you will get a better grounding in the smaller firm. Then, if practice is still of interest to you, switch to big 4 to get the big 4 experience on your CV.

Jim2007

DumbBrunette wrote: »

...does anyone have any advice for me on which company is better to work for or train with here in Ireland??????

Why play in the second division, when you can play in the first division??? Every year the big 4 try to recruit the best graduates they can find, being in that group makes a very strong statement on your resume.

DumbBrunette

Thanks a mill everyone, I've gone with Deloitte

Jim2007

DumbBrunette wrote: »

Thanks a mill everyone, I've gone with Deloitte

Good luck. Ex-Deloitte myself - 30 years ago!

Rachel9609

Hey, just wondering I’d anyone following this thread knows if i miss out on my 2:1 will Deloitte take back my offer?

fishy_fishy

Rachel9609 wrote: »

Hey, just wondering I’d anyone following this thread knows if i miss out on my 2:1 will Deloitte take back my offer?

They're usually pretty firm on the 2:1 requirement, but it can be a 2:1 in your primary degree or a higher degree. If you miss it they might be flexible about deferring a year while you do a masters, but ultimately you'll need the 2:1 in something. No harm asking them.

Rachel9609

And just out of curosity how is it you know?

fishy_fishy

Rachel9609 wrote: »

And just out of curosity how is it you know?

The experience my classmates had.

Rachel9609

Did they get rejected after getting an offer

fishy_fishy

No, they got their 2:1 but had been told the contract was conditional on that. Haven't heard of anyone getting around that requirement. Just put the head down and study hard. If you don't get the 2:1 then go and talk to them about a masters or go into a different firm.

Rachel9609

Yeah I suppose they aren’t really going to tell you they’re are lenient on the grades though are they?

Jim2007

Rachel9609 wrote: »

Yeah I suppose they aren’t really going to tell you they’re are lenient on the grades though are they?

Why would they, when they are not, it is not as if they are stuck for candidates. Work your ass off and get the necessary results, otherwise expect to be disappointed.

fishy_fishy

The other thing I can tell you (from personal experience) is that you can expect to work your a$$ off AND have to pass exams at the same time. I'm talking doing months of 55-60 hour weeks on the trot, with lectures at the weekend and evenings.

The pass mark is 50%. If you can't manage 60% in college you'll struggle to manage 50% in harder exams with less instruction and working big 4 hours. You wouldn't be a sensible hire. Put the head down and get the results you need.