HDMI Modulator & Sat/Terrestrial Combiners

Muttly

Hi all.

I hope I'm in the right group, I figured it make more sense here than the Satellite group.

I have a few questions. To give some background I'll explain my setup.
Currently I have a Sky Q box and a Sky Q mini box. I'm getting rid of the Q mini for a few reasons. That will leave me with the main Q box. I currently don't have a Soarview aerial but I will be adding 1. There is a coax running to each tv in the house and 2 to the main TV. This is where my problems being.

The 2 coax running to the main tv are in use by Sky. I was looking at using 2 Sat/Terrestrial one each of the 2 feed cables. I would need to run the Saorview down to the TV and then back up with the HDMI Modulated signal included.

My questions are as follows:
1. Will the combiners work in opposite directions? ie. cable 1 will be sat in and Saorview in, cable 2 will be sat in and Saorview out.
2. Will the HDMI Modulator work with Sky Q (hence being unsure of it being here or the Satellite group)?
3. Will HDMI modulators/Sky Q work with a magic eye type device?

winston_1

1. You cannot combine Sky Q satellite and terrestrial down one cable. Sky Q signals overlap terrestrial.
2. No, for the reason above.
3. No.

STB.

Yes you can.

Many of the DVB-T HDMI modulators allow this. Attach your Sky Q box via HDMI and Add an ARIEL to the input on the modulator. Theres videos done by Dave from TVtrade (now Free Tv). You can add Sky eyes etc to the Mix.

http://www.freetv.ie/hdmi-modulator/

Just make sure the TV's at the receiving end have in built DVB-T tuners that are MPEG4 HD (connecting an aerial to the back of them and seeing whether you receive Saorview on them will confirm that).

winston_1

Yes you can what?
1, and 2 you can't do, and 3 you can't do as there are insufficient cables.

steveon

Is it possible to run another cable from main room to secondary room?? If so you could use the cable already going to the bedroom for use for saorview or put a fta sat box there with saorview by diplexing that cable.

If you can run a cat6 network cable from main room to secondary room you can use a cat6 to hdmi convertor and send the sky q box to the secondary room

winston_1

To do that he will require to change the sky Q LNB to a hybrid type.

steveon

winston_1 wrote: »

To do that he will require to change the sky Q LNB to a hybrid type.

The sky q already uses a hybrid lnb but it's possible to get a hybrid lnb with a quad lnb also on it so six outlets two for sky q and four for any number of options

STB.

winston_1 wrote: »

Yes you can what?
1, and 2 you can't do, and 3 you can't do as there are insufficient cables.

1 and 2 you can do.

Do you actually understand the concept of a HDMI Modulator ?

Did you understand the OP's questions ?

It takes the sat signals from the HDMI port on the Sky box which you send through the dvb-t modulator on a chosen dvb-t channel. You also combine the UHF signals through the dvb-t modulator as that allows the connection of an aerial. The combined aerial and Sky box feed is then fed to as many TV's as you want and control remotely in each room can be facilitated further with a sky eye (which answers your question at 3).

Obviously the ability to watch different programs in different rooms will become an issue for the OP as he is using a HDMI output from the Sky box. But it allows full control remotely and the combining of sat and terrestrial signals though the modulator.

The Cush

The problem is the OP has only 2 cables to the main TV point which are used by SkyQ and doesn't have a spare cable to run the aerial feed to the main TV point. He wants to use the existing SkyQ cables to carry the aerial UHF feeds also which isn't possible.

steveon

steveon wrote: »

The sky q already uses a hybrid lnb but it's possible to get a hybrid lnb with a quad lnb also on it so six outlets two for sky q and four for any number of options

The latter is a hybrid LNB, the former is a wideband or FBC LNB isn't it?

winston_1

STB. wrote: »

winston_1 wrote: »

Yes you can what?
1, and 2 you can't do, and 3 you can't do as there are insufficient cables.

1 and 2 you can do.

Do you actually understand the concept of a HDMI Modulator ?

Did you understand the OP's questions ?

It takes the sat signals from the HDMI port on the Sky box which you send through the dvb-t modulator on a chosen dvb-t channel.  You also combine the UHF signals through the dvb-t modulator as that allows the connection of an aerial.  The combined aerial and Sky box feed is then fed to as many TV's as you want and control remotely in each room can be facilitated further with a sky eye (which answers your question at 3).

Obviously the ability to watch different programs in different rooms will become an issue for the OP as he is using a HDMI output from the Sky box.  But it allows full control remotely and the combining of sat and terrestrial signals though the modulator.

STB. wrote: »

winston_1 wrote: »

Yes you can what?
1, and 2 you can't do, and 3 you can't do as there are insufficient cables.

1 and 2 you can do.

Do you actually understand the concept of a HDMI Modulator ?

Did you understand the OP's questions ?

It takes the sat signals from the HDMI port on the Sky box which you send through the dvb-t modulator on a chosen dvb-t channel.  You also combine the UHF signals through the dvb-t modulator as that allows the connection of an aerial.  The combined aerial and Sky box feed is then fed to as many TV's as you want and control remotely in each room can be facilitated further with a sky eye (which answers your question at 3).

Obviously the ability to watch different programs in different rooms will become an issue for the OP as he is using a HDMI output from the Sky box.  But it allows full control remotely and the combining of sat and terrestrial signals though the modulator.

Of course I understand the question and what a HDMI modulator is. For your information I have one myself. 
The question asked was whether Sky Q signals and terrestrial signals could go down the same cable and the answer is NO, because Sky Q satellite IF uses terrestrial frequencies.

The Cush

steveon wrote: »

The sky q already uses a hybrid lnb but it's possible to get a hybrid lnb with a quad lnb also on it so six outlets two for sky q and four for any number of options

Karsini wrote: »

The latter is a hybrid LNB, the former is a wideband or FBC LNB isn't it?

The standard SkyQ twin output LNB is a wideband FBC type (wbLNB), the six output LNB is a hybrid wideband/legacy type with each output auto selectable depending on the type of receiver connected.

Muttly

Thanks for the reply everyone.

To clarify slightly, I cannot add an extra cables. I wish I could it would make things much easier.

I actually have the hybrid (6 port LNB) but that won’t help anything.

I can however put the Q box in the attic so that is actually going to sort a lot of the issues.

So let me ask slightly different questions.

Assuming the box will be in the attic, I now have 2 free cables to the sitting room. I can then use one of those for the tv signal with the HDMI modulator also in the attic.

Now it’s a slightly different issue I’m going to run into. How do I extend the remote to 2 rooms? 1 room may be close enough to use the Bluetooth remote but I won’t know for sure until I make the move. In case it doesn’t I would like to know what other solutions I have.

Muttly

Quick update, I've tested the Bluetooth remote upstairs to the living room and it works. I'm going to hope that it will work fine, I would still rather use the IR remote as I don't like the touch features of that remote.