U.N Vote on death penalty for gay sex.

Gringo180

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-gay-sex-death-penalty-un-same-sex-relations-human-rights-council-saudi-arabia-iraq-nikki-haley-a7980981.html?amp

US votes against UN resolution condemning gay sex death penalty. Wonder what there reasons are for this. Sounds insane to be honest.

Hector Bellend

A resolution condemning gay sex.

Really?

bear1

Backwards pits the lot of them.
Can't believe a society heading into 2018 can still condemn you to death for your sexual preference.
And yet Saudi Arabia have a seat on the human rights council.
**** me.

elperello

Saudi pandering.

Zebra3

Good old US of A. The Land of the Free.

Supporting the hanging of gay people.

Utter scum.

Dravokivich

I dont get it... Isn't one's sexuality already a human right?

Gringo180

I actually had to read the article again couldnt believe what I was reading. The moral decline of American society really starts from the top.

bear1

Dravokivich wrote: »

I dont get it... Isn't one's sexuality already a human right?

Oh it Is, just not in those god forsaken countries.

EPAndlee

Can Kim do us all a favour and just nuke America

Noveight

I'd love to see Sarah Huckabee Sanders have a go at pitching this one to the press.

Gringo180

elperello wrote: »

Saudi pandering.

Them savages should be bombed back to the stone age. No wait..... there already there.

Gringo180

I wonder have the American public been notified about this through there main media outlets? Cannot for the life of me find it on any of the main news channels. Nothing on CNN or Fox. Hmmmmmm

20Cent

The US voted against it!!!

The 13 states to oppose the resolution were Botswana, Burundi, Egypt, Ethiopia, Bangladesh, China, India, Iraq, Japan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the US and the United Arab Emirates.

Anyone know why?

thee glitz

Acknowledging that I'm no legal expert, it seems the US haven't specifically condoned the death penalty for gay sex. It makes for a good headline though.

JupiterKid

What else would you expect from the Trump administration?

In fact, I'm surprised that the US even had an input here as Trump has made it clear he loathes the UN and wants to kick them out of New York.

riffmongous

Japan also voted against.. any particular reason I wonder or were they just being US puppets

OnDraught

I’m sure someone who is up on the use of the death penalty in modern times will be along with factual information.

It looks to me though that the likes of the US and Japan are probably not too keen on any debate over their own use of the death penalty. Voting in favour may lead to some questions they don’t want to answer.

nacho libre

thee glitz wrote: »

Acknowledging that I'm no legal expert, it seems the US haven't specifically condoned the death penalty for gay sex. It makes for a good headline though.

It's not a good headline. It's shocking. Did you have to spin it this way because you feel criticism of America voting against the resolution is something you'd rather not acknowledge. I would imagine if we were talking about Iran or Saudi Arabia, you would be fairly direct in your criticism of said country for voting against such a resolution.

thee glitz

nacho libre wrote: »

Did you have to spin it this way because you feel criticism of America voting against the resolution is something you'd rather not acknowledge

It's the paper, and now you, doing the spinning.

One eyed Jack

Gringo180 wrote: »

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-gay-sex-death-penalty-un-same-sex-relations-human-rights-council-saudi-arabia-iraq-nikki-haley-a7980981.html?amp

US votes against UN resolution condemning gay sex death penalty. Wonder what there reasons are for this. Sounds insane to be honest.

It does when you read it like that. However, the US doesn't impose the death penalty on anyone for same-sex relations in the first place. What the US objects to is any question regarding the use of the death penalty itself -

The Human Rights Council resolution condemned the “imposition of the death penalty as a sanction for specific forms of conduct, such as apostasy, blasphemy, adultery and consensual same-sex relations”.

...

The US supported two failed amendments put forward by Russia, which stated the death penalty was not necessarily “a human rights violation” and that it is not a form of torture, but can lead to it “in some cases”.

And it abstained on a “sovereignty amendment” put forward by Saudi Arabia, that stated “the right of all countries to develop their own laws and penalties”.

Manic Moran

The full text of the resolution appears to be here. http://ilga.org/downloads/HRC36_resolution_question_death_penalty.pdf
Only one line of the many seems to relate to homosexuality. There are plenty of other lines that the US might object to. I can see one or two which seem to lay direct aim at Medellin v Texas, for example.

Samaris

This one is actually not really to do with Trump. The whole headline is a bit misleading (it was in the media too). It was the first time that homosexuality was included specifically as something it's not right to put someone to death for, but the vote was more on the death penalty itself; who was on the list is irrelevant. The US tends to vote against any resolutions or declarations against the death penalty, since they use it. Given that mentally ill people and minors were also specified and the US can legally put either to death in some states, that's more likely why they voted against it, if it's anything but that the US generally votes against these things.

So technically, yes, the US voted down a condemnation of executing gay people for being gay, but it wasn't specifically to do with gay people being on the list.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz

EPAndlee wrote: »

Can Kim do us all a favour and just nuke America

Nice. Calling for a mass holocaust based on a sensationalist click bait article that you most likely didn't even read, and most definitely didn't comprehend.

It is really this easy to whip you into a foaming at the mouth frenzy? Really?

A Little Pony

Blame the saudis.