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Hotel refund?

  • 30-09-2017 9:08am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11


    Several months ago I booked a semi well known hotel in Dublin close to the 3arena as I knew I was attending an event well in advance.. On the morning of the event while on route to Dublin I got a call to confirm the room as it was made almost 8 months in advance to which I did confirm.. When I arrived at 6pm I was on my way to said hotel when I was called and told my room was no longer available.. And that they were putting me in another hotel with similar room quality but 25 minutes walk away from the 3 arena and from where I was right then as I was almost at the hotel, I protested due to the distance away but since the event was starting at 8pm I had no choice but to take it and walk there with my luggage as it wasn't on the luas line and I didn't have cash on me to get a taxi.. On my diverted route to the event I rang them and asked would they be so kind as to provide a taxi from my new hotel to the 3 arena as I was rushing and would be late as I needed to shower etc. So they obliged but stated I would only get a taxi to the 3 arena but not be getting a taxi after the event back to the hotel.. Again I protested without being too unkind to the girl on the phone as none of this is her fault but I didn't want to be walking the streets of Dublin late at night by myself as the reason I booked the hotel close to the 3 arena in the first place. In the end I couldn't get my own taxi after the event and was walking back at night for 25 minutes to my dismay as it's something I'm not comfortable which I voiced the following day to their customer service line to which they replied if you took the room then the matter is ultimately closed.. Seeing as it was already 6pm I had no chance to rebook any other place in the vicinity and was not provided with what I booked months in advance.. Can I claim for a refund because of this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,766 ✭✭✭RossieMan


    Get in touch with the hotel and ask? They provided you with an alternative, which you accepted. It'll really depends on the t&C's you accepted when booking.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    OP, I've moved your thread to consumer issues.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    At the very least they should have provided a taxi to and from the 3arena considering you picked it specifically due to its location and that the room was confirmed just a few hours previously and booked months in advance.

    Possibly settle for a voucher for a free night?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    I don't think you are entitled to anything but I'd definitely write to the hotel you originally booked with. I would expect them to offer you a two night stay with evening meal on the house as a good will gesture. It's unlikely that they will offer a refund


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


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    You arrive at 6pm, they don't have a room. They give you a refund and show you the door.

    You'd be happy with that???? Seriously????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    I would expect them to offer you a two night stay with evening meal on the house as a good will gesture.

    You're joking right? That's some gesture.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Tenigate


    No, you cannot, as you accepted their resolution and weren't actually out of pocket.

    You are however entitled to threaten them with, and give them a one-star review on tripadvisor, hotels.com, google places, and any other site you can think of if they're unwilling to settle your grievence satisfactorily.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    I would continued onto the hotel left luggage with them gone to point and sorted it afterwards. There are always rooms free in a hotel, just not the ones you or i can afford.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    You're joking right? That's some gesture.

    Doesn't go far enough. I'd be looking for someone's firstborn.

    In fairness though, epic failure by the hotel. All taxis should've been covered, then we'd be squared.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


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    Wow - hotels would love if all customers were as easily pleased. They'd be overbooking every day and then choosing those who paid highest rate for the rooms.

    Michael O'Leary would love if affected Ryanair passengers had similar attitude - sorry flight cancelled, here's a refund, see ya.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Tenigate


    If a room is confirmed and paid for, how the hell can they give it away to someone else? Esp without penalty.

    It's often burried in T&Cs :
    E.g.
    We hope and expect to be able to provide you with all the services that we have confirmed with you at the time of your booking. However, on occasions changes may have to be made and Limerick City Hotels reserve the right to make those changes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,113 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    You're joking right? That's some gesture.

    Back when hotels weren't full every night that wouldn't have been that unheard of really. However you'd be limited to using it at really, really quiet times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    You're joking right? That's some gesture.


    That's pretty standard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 Mangelooooo


    That's what I'm thinking... I literally would have let it go but they were so unaccommodating about the whole thing and since then I feel like there needs to be some kind of reprimand for this... If anyone knows of any type of consumer right I can push so they know they can just do this again and again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭upandcumming


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    I would continued onto the hotel left luggage with them gone to point and sorted it afterwards. There are always rooms free in a hotel, just not the ones you or i can afford.

    That is hilariously false.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    That is hilariously false.

    No hotel in its right mind runs at 100% occupancy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭Cerco


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    No hotel in its right mind runs at 100% occupancy.

    Hotel near the 3 arena on a night of a popular show with probably inflated prices....I would not be so certain.

    The pricing may have been a factor in the cancellation of an early booking. It would be interesting to know if there was a price hike since the booking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    No specific rights - I'd get name of hotel manager and write explaining how disappointed you were with how it was handled and that you incurred extra expense due to the change in booking and ask if this expense can be refunded.

    Any decent manager will reply with a far better resolution than just a couple of taxi fares.

    Basically play nice, be polite, show you are potentially still a customer and the response should be far better than trying to force anything.

    Write rather than email, but include an email address and phone number for reply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 Mangelooooo


    Any decent manager will reply with a far better resolution than just a couple of taxi fares.

    Basically play nice, be polite, show you are potentially still a customer and the response should be far better than trying to force anything.

    Write rather than email, but include an email address and phone number for reply.

    I've tried.. 3 times I've asked to be put in contact with someone over the phone not through email who can hear of my situation.. And 3 times they have suggested that the matter is closed and an offer of 10% later upping to 20% off my next stay there is all that is on offer.. I've reject the offers and requested that they confirm the following so I have it on record

    1) that through no fault of my own was my room which was booked several months in advance given away at 6pm on the day I was meant to stay

    2) that no room was given within proximity of the 3 arena or was transport provided from the 3 arena after the event I was attending

    And they havn't replied to me... 😞


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭upandcumming


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    No hotel in its right mind runs at 100% occupancy.

    I worked at the desk for a 5 star hotel in south Dublin for two years... I think the best I managed one night 109%.
    Hotels run at 100% all the time.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    I worked at the desk for a 5 star hotel in south Dublin for two years... I think the best I managed one night 109%.
    Hotels run at 100% all the time.

    You obviously weren't at full capacity if you could run at 109%, hence you weren't at 100% capacity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    You obviously weren't at full capacity if you could run at 109%, hence you weren't at 100% capacity.

    Some hotels let the rooms during the day for meetings n’ such, the guess clear out, the room is turned around and sold again for the night

    Happens a lot at airport hotels

    You can get above 100% this way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭oakshade


    I had a similar situation at a Cork hotel a few years back. A bus tour got in ahead of me and they had more people than they booked rooms for. I got moved to a different hotel. To be fair, they offered me a voucher for dinner in their hotel on the spot. A but of protesting got me the dinner and a nights B&B!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 Mangelooooo


    oakshade wrote: »
    I had a similar situation at a Cork hotel a few years back. A bus tour got in ahead of me and they had more people than they booked rooms for. I got moved to a different hotel. To be fair, they offered me a voucher for dinner in their hotel on the spot. A but of protesting got me the dinner and a nights B&B!

    Yeah I understand it can happen.. But the fact that the hotel seem to dismiss how much it inconvenienced my whole night that I don't want to just let them away with it.. If anyone has any advice of what to say when they do get back to me that would be great!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Was the hotel part of a chain or a group of hotels. A letter to the hotel manager with cc to the HQ might yield some results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    2) that no room was given within proximity of the 3 arena or was transport provided from the 3 arena after the event I was attending


    Small claims court, but all you can claim for is the taxi back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭upandcumming


    judeboy101 wrote: »
    You obviously weren't at full capacity if you could run at 109%, hence you weren't at 100% capacity.
    ...
    Ah will you goway out of that.
    I fully booked the hotel, 3 no shows and 3 reservations sent elsewhere. And that is one example. Sorry did my sums wrong, it was 105% not 109%.
    I used to have these 'guests' ring up thinking that we keep a few rooms free, for VIP guests or cash bookings one lad thought! Complete nonsense. When hotels are full, they are full. Why would anyone go through the hassle of booking out someone, in the hope that someone with a a spare €500 will call up dying to book a special room.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    When I arrived at 6pm I was on my way to said hotel when I was called and told my room was no longer available..
    The only angle that I can see is that you weren't given appropriate notice of the change, as I'd say 6pm is after the earliest time that you could check in.


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