Bike on train from naas

wpd

changing jobs and need to get to city centre from Naas

was looking at trains from Sallins to Hueston

after reading the rules i am still unclear if normal bikes are allowed on this service during peak hours?

thanks

LXFlyer

No they are not.

Hilly Bill

wpd wrote: »

changing jobs and need to get to city centre from Naas

was looking at trains from Sallins to Hueston

after reading the rules i am still unclear if normal bikes are allowed on this service during peak hours?

thanks

Only between 9:30 and 15:30 but if the train starts there and has a bike rack then you will be OK. You can't bring it onto a busy train where it will be taking up standing room..

wpd

thanks plan b so

Xterminator

a folding bike?

mullyboyee

Yes you can, there is space for 2 bikes in the first carriage.

LXFlyer

mullyboyee wrote: »

Yes you can, there is space for 2 bikes in the first carriage.

They can only be pre-booked on Intercity services.

The rules are quite clear:

Services into Heuston Station (Intercity services and Portlaoise commuters)

With services at capacity during peak travel time for Customers, bicycles are not permitted during the following times for journeys into/out of Heuston station from Monday - Friday unless the bicycle is booked on Intercity services only in advance on-line. Our journey planner will show the intercity services that can be booked in advance online.

Services arriving into Heuston station between 07.00hrs to 09.30hrs.
Services departing from Heuston station between 16.00hrs to 19.00hrs.
Bicycle Reservations

Bicycle spaces for Intercity services must be booked, in advance, online at www.irishrail.ie.

Hilly Bill

LXFlyer wrote: »

They can only be pre-booked on Intercity services.

The rules are quite clear:

Services into Heuston Station (Intercity services and Portlaoise commuters)

With services at capacity during peak travel time for Customers, bicycles are not permitted during the following times for journeys into/out of Heuston station from Monday - Friday unless the bicycle is booked on Intercity services only in advance on-line. Our journey planner will show the intercity services that can be booked in advance online.

Services arriving into Heuston station between 07.00hrs to 09.30hrs.
Services departing from Heuston station between 16.00hrs to 19.00hrs.
Bicycle Reservations

Bicycle spaces for Intercity services must be booked, in advance, online at www.irishrail.ie.

Will there be someone with a list of the booked bikes preventing the op from boarding in sallins?.

LXFlyer

Try booking a ticket from Sallins to Dublin online - it's not possible.

There's your answer.

beauf

A folding bike can be put on the end of carriage luggage racks. Since you are getting off at the end of the line that's not a problem.

If you are getting off before the last stop getting a folding bike off the luggage rack and through people standing in the doorways is very awkward if not impossible.

similar issued with the current rack for full sized bikes. If your bike is on the inside.

Very poor provision for bikes, and even the rules are very confused. When they should be encouraging multi-modal transport of bikes and trains.

There is a large bike park at Heuston Station, and quite a few bike lockers there and in the station. So leaving a bike at the station is also an option.

Hilly Bill

Stick it in the bike rack and get off at Connolly. It's a different story going back though.

Jamie2k9

There is bike storage at Heuston in lockers (for a fee) or in the car park (free) and lately I have saw a lot of bikes left by the Luas platforms across from Dublin Bikes.

LXFlyer

beauf wrote: »

A folding bike can be put on the end of carriage luggage racks. Since you are getting off at the end of the line that's not a problem.

If you are getting off before the last stop getting a folding bike off the luggage rack and through people standing in the doorways is very awkward if not impossible.

similar issued with the current rack for full sized bikes. If your bike is on the inside.

Very poor provision for bikes, and even the rules are very confused. When they should be encouraging multi-modal transport of bikes and trains.

There is a large bike park at Heuston Station, and quite a few bike lockers there and in the station. So leaving a bike at the station is also an option.

Most commuter rail services around the world don't allow bicycles at peak hours - this isn't something unique to Ireland.

beauf

You're missing my point.

Its that the interior of the train and the current bike racks are poorly designed for commuters.

But especially folding bike commuters and which are allowed. A folding bike takes up no more room than a backpack. Ironically there are suitable luggage racks on the intercity. Just not on arrow, Dart commuter trains.

Besides which the rule on full sized bikes is rarely enforced.

LXFlyer

beauf wrote: »

You're missing my point.

Its that the interior of the train and the current bike racks are poorly designed for commuters.

But especially folding bike commuters and which are allowed. A folding bike takes up no more room than a backpack. Ironically there are suitable luggage racks on the intercity. Just not on arrow, Dart commuter trains.

Besides which the rule on full sized bikes is rarely enforced.

Actually the 2600s, 2700s, 2800s and 29000s (Arrow as you refer to them) all have luggage racks - that's only an issue on DART.

Unfortunately there isn't enough commuter rolling stock available to displace the ICRs off commuter services in the Dublin region, and for trains beyond Hazelhatch the commuter stock really isn't suitable due to their lower top speeds.

beauf

You mean the overhead racks? Get real.

LXFlyer

beauf wrote: »

You mean the overhead racks? Get real.

Sorry - that's what I thought you meant when you referred to luggage racks, particularly when you mentioned the space a backpack would take up.

No need to get excited about it.

Very few commuter trains have full luggage racks - it takes up too much valuable space.

beauf

LXFlyer wrote: »

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No need to get excited about it.

Very few commuter trains have full luggage racks - it takes up too much valuable space.

The irony being they use intercity trains not commuter trains for commuters which do have luggage racks and space for a catering trolley. Of course there's usually people standing or sitting in those spaces.

Many countries make provision for cycling commuters on their commuter rail. Multi modal is the future.

Del.Monte

And not forgetting that the Inter-City railcars are getting heavy wear being misused for commuter trains and are then in rank order for their intended use.

beauf

Noticing uncleaned trains a lot these days. I assume they've been switched to a commuter train on turn around.

Jamie2k9

Del.Monte wrote: »

And not forgetting that the Inter-City railcars are getting heavy wear being misused for commuter trains and are then in rank order for their intended use.

TBH they were purchased for commuter routes as well.

The braking system (hydrodynamic brake) isn't doing the engines any favors however that is an observation rather than technical assumption.

Noticing cleaned trains a lot these days. I assume they've been switched to a commuter train on turn around.

Most are 10 years so will of gotten a deep clean externally.

beauf

Typo that should have been uncleaned..