John Deere mining data?

blue5000

I got a letter from jd in the post today looking for permission to hold on to my personal data. I've never been a customer of theirs in the past and I've no immediate plans to be a customer either. Did anyone else here get the same letter?

ford2600

blue5000 wrote: »

I got a letter from jd in the post today looking for permission to hold on to my personal data. I've never been a customer of theirs in the past and I've no immediate plans to be a customer either. Did anyone else here get the same letter?

Yep.

Two came to this house. Unless my grandfather purchased one of their steel ploughs I'm not sure how they had my name

ganmo

JD own a lot of machinery companies.

I'd be replying asking them where they got your name and address. If no response do a foi request

jd06

ford2600 wrote:

Two came to this house. Unless my grandfather purchased one of their steel ploughs I'm not sure how they had my name

Ya two here aswel, won't be replying

dohc turbo2

The uncle got one too but had dealer he bought his lawnmower off stamped on letter

tomwaterford

The parents got 1 aswell....we assumed it was someone father used work with signed them up messing tbh

Floki

Sounds like there's a big phishing event going on by John Deere for names and numbers to fill the books with Irish farmers.
They get the numbers and then they go seed companies, weather companies, fertiliser companies and say look we have x number of farmers on the books. You pay us and we'll give you access to these farmers that nobody else will have and in return you get sale for your products and yield info etc, etc.

It's book numbers filling and phishing time folks.

Old Chinese proverb - "Whoever controls the farmer, controls the world".

blue5000

I reckon floki you've hit the nail on the head. AFAIK Jd don't go to the ploughing so they weren't able to 'harvest' data there.

foxy farmer

And there was me thinking they were getting involved in the mineral exploration business. Getting old

roosterman71

I remember reading not long ago about all the new fangled machines out there. Think it was on here and JD were mentioned. Anyway, short synopsis is with the IoT, and the drive to have everything connected, the amount of data available is worth a bloody fortune. So for example, if you have a sower, ya'll probably need to input what yer sowing. Then as ya work, the machine knows where ya are (GPS), maybe the soil type, yer sowing rate, the seed type, speed, conditions, etc, etc. And it's probably sending all that back to the manufacturer, which ya most likely signed up to when ya bought the machine. Ya don't need a sim card or Wifi connection anymore for these yokes now the 800MHz spectrum is in use. (I'll get a link to that soon for ye ).

What I'm basically saying, as machines get smarter, the more info ya give away for free which can then be used to target ya for more sales, etc.

Oh, and if ya say something broke and yer under warranty, be damn sure they will check all this to prove if yer telling the truth.

charolais0153

roosterman71 wrote: »

I remember reading not long ago about all the new fangled machines out there. Think it was on here and JD were mentioned. Anyway, short synopsis is with the IoT, and the drive to have everything connected, the amount of data available is worth a bloody fortune. So for example, if you have a sower, ya'll probably need to input what yer sowing. Then as ya work, the machine knows where ya are (GPS), maybe the soil type, yer sowing rate, the seed type, speed, conditions, etc, etc. And it's probably sending all that back to the manufacturer, which ya most likely signed up to when ya bought the machine. Ya don't need a sim card or Wifi connection anymore for these yokes now the 800MHz spectrum is in use. (I'll get a link to that soon for ye ).

What I'm basically saying, as machines get smarter, the more info ya give away for free which can then be used to target ya for more sales, etc.

Oh, and if ya say something broke and yer under warranty, be damn sure they will check all this to prove if yer telling the truth.

Waffletraktor said it
http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057412449/144/#post104156472

Floki

blue5000 wrote: »

I got a letter from jd in the post today looking for permission to hold on to my personal data. I've never been a customer of theirs in the past and I've no immediate plans to be a customer either. Did anyone else here get the same letter?

I think I might have it now.

Right so it's been alluded to that John Deere broadcast back to their data center on their own bandwidth.
So every machine John Deere has now have sensors coming out of their ears.
Yield sensors, working conditions etc etc.
(Anyone that have or maybe garage men might know about).
So a combine comes into a field and all that info, crop yield, moisture content, etc, etc is relayed back to their data center.
You bought the machine you might have no problem with other people knowing that info and you probably signed up to it when you bought it but contractors buy the machine and they're relaying information about hundreds of farmers crops and fields that those customers never signed up for or had no clue it was happening thus illegal on the contractor's part.

So awhola permission slips sent out to farmers across the country looking to hold onto data.

Now how did they know who owns the fields in this country or is that simple to find out?
Modern technology is great!:rolleyes:

Edit: roosterman said in a simpler way above.
I should read these threads and keep on top of them.

Waffletraktor

Floki wrote: »

I think I might have it now.

Right so it's been alluded to that John Deere broadcast back to their data center on their own bandwidth.
So every machine John Deere has now have sensors coming out of their ears.
Yield sensors, working conditions etc etc.
(Anyone that have or maybe garage men might know about).
So a combine comes into a field and all that info, crop yield, moisture content, etc, etc is relayed back to their data center.
You bought the machine you might have no problem with other people knowing that info and you probably signed up to it when you bought it but contractors buy the machine and they're relaying information about hundreds of farmers crops and fields that those customers never signed up for or had no clue it was happening thus illegal on the contractor's part.

So awhola permission slips sent out to farmers across the country looking to hold onto data.

Now how did they know who owns the fields in this country or is that simple to find out?
Modern technology is great!:rolleyes:

Edit: roosterman said in a simpler way above.
I should read these threads and keep on top of them.

It depends how far down the rabbit hole you want to go.
I'm sure it's no different to auto id/feed to yield parlours set up to give a daily report on a certain cows milk constituants/yield for that day. most farms won't use it but high yielders will.
Our combines will sample yield and moisture on the go as their kept calibrated for accuracy, soon there will be facilities to give grain quality results on the fly.
They will also record yield maps for transfering over to your historic maps for yield/soils/fertility that can be worked out down to a few dozen m2 to micro manage areas that could benefit from more micro management of if it's worthwhile doing so. Every time someone goes to do a seeding/ferting/spraying job here will get a workplan print out and a map plan on a usb stick. Deere essentially want to do all that via cloud computing where they can have a look and sell what info they can on.
The equipment here all have auto steer with the fields saved on board with their headlands and tramlines on board. The sprayer has nozzels that are individually controlled for on/off overlap control via rtk, it's saving about 2% of overlap , but how many farms could justify the initial input i don''t know.

Depends how far down the rabbit hole you want to go, and if your okay with what you find.