Buyers checking Star Ratings of heifers - ICBF

patsy_mccabe

Someone PM'd me about this today, so I thought I'd post it up.

To check the star ratings of a heifer or cow, the seller has to be in the Genomics Scheme (BDGP). Anyone can look these ratings up on www.icbf.com . They will also be posted up on the screen in the mart.
I know this is right, as I just checked some of my cows there on ICBf without logging in and I am in the BDGP. I've also checked tag numbers before of purebred heifers from Donedeal on ICBF, only to be told that info not available as seller not on HerdPlus.

Now if the seller is in HerdPlus, does the same apply? I'm not in HerdPlus so can't check this for sure.
Could one of you Dairy guys check this, ie someone in HerdPlus but not in the BDGP.

DirtyDiesels

Correct. I'm in Herdplus but not in BDGP and my figures are available on ICBF.

wiggy123

have to be with herdplus..

patsy_mccabe

wiggy123 wrote: »

have to be with herdplus..

Or the BDGP scheme, and that's for the seller only.

wiggy123

true

should have it open to all..

Bellview

First step along read where icbf will make us pay for our data...

wiggy123

in pipeline I'd say.. as needing money to keep the staff/system/ etc going

tractorporn

Sorry to hijack Patsys thread but can you look up the parameters for rating the bulls on ICBF website? Our bull has dropped from a 3 star to a one star in the latest figures and I'd like to know what's brought him down.

Hard Knocks

tractorporn wrote: »

Sorry to hijack Patsys thread but can you look up the parameters for rating the bulls on ICBF website? Our bull has dropped from a 3 star to a one star in the latest figures and I'd like to know what's brought him down.

Put his number into the bull finder, then go to prev evaluation, see where the differences are
Then look up specifics on replacement or terminal

Might not be him, could be breed line

trg

Hey, we've almost all the females genotyped now. Next year we've 17 to tag but will only have 9 available females.

My question is....is there any value in tagging males?

Would culling the low star older cows and buying heifers say from a dairy herd make more sense? And tagging those.

I don't see us having a problem with the 20% in 2018 & 50% in 2020 targets as is.

tanko

trg wrote: »

Hey, we've almost all the females genotyped now. Next year we've 17 to tag but will only have 9 available females.

My question is....is there any value in tagging males?

Would culling the low star older cows and buying heifers say from a dairy herd make more sense? And tagging those.

I don't see us having a problem with the 20% in 2018 & 50% in 2020 targets as is.

I wouldnt get rid of cows just for the sake of not having to tag bull calves unless you intended replacing them anyway.
If you have a closed herd i wouldnt change that if you dont really need to.
Tagging bulls next year instead of heifers could help make sure you have enough animals to tag in the following years if for some reason you had less cows calving.

trg

tanko wrote: »

I wouldnt get rid of cows just for the sake of not having to tag bull calves unless you intended replacing them anyway.
If you have a closed herd i wouldnt change that if you dont really need to.
Tagging bulls next year instead of heifers could help make sure you have enough animals to tag in the following years if for some reason you had less cows calving.

Cheers. It is a closed herd alright which is an advantage.

Im probably being dense but how would tagging bulls next year mean we'd have more to tag the following years?

tanko

trg wrote: »

Cheers. It is a closed herd alright which is an advantage.

Im probably being dense but how would tagging bulls next year mean we'd have more to tag the following years?

If you tag the bulls and sell them, your replacement heifers wont be tagged and you could build up a reserve of untagged animals towards 2020. It might be worth doing if a farmer was reducing cow numbers.
Of course you'll have to keep an eye on the targets for genotyped cows and heifers in 2018 and 2020.

trg

tanko wrote: »

If you tag the bulls and sell them, your replacement heifers wont be tagged and you could build up a reserve of untagged animals towards 2020. It might be worth doing if a farmer was reducing cow numbers.
Of course you'll have to keep an eye on the targets for genotyped cows and heifers in 2018 and 2020.

Got ya now, makes sense. Not reducing cow numbers now anyway, a scan yesterday revealed a stray bull enjoyed himself on a short visit!