Uninsured disqualified driver v uninsured disqualified driver

LollipopJimmy

Two drivers below, one off d'telly and one a bit troubled and a single mother. Both admitted straight away they were disqualified but guess which one got a suspended sentence and which one got €500 fine and the fact they were disqualified was only taken 'into consideration' when sentencing.

Where is the consistency, especially now when every there we are being told about uninsured drivers causing premiums to rise.
On a side note, I did a bit of digging around and it turns out all claims involving uninsured and untraceable drivers added about €24 to every policy. I don't know about the rest of you but my insurance has gone up a lot more than 24quid

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/comedian-jason-byrne-took-a-chance-to-drive-without-insurance-to-pick-up-9-year-old-son-807420.html

http://www.herald.ie/news/courts/cleaner-banned-from-driving-begs-judge-for-one-last-chance-35940464.html

Car99

Disqualified for 6 years for driving without insurance or licence ? She must have alot of previous?

Tigger

Different judges
Some differ McD innoutcomes

ohnonotgmail

first offence versus most definitely not her first offence as she looking for "one more chance".

LollipopJimmy

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

first offence versus most definitely not her first offence as she looking for "one more chance".

Not mentioned in the court report, something like that would be mentioned by the court reporter. Unlikely to be the case.

Just looking at the report from Jason Byrne's is disgraceful, the fact he was driving while disqualified was only 'taken into consideration', which basically means the court takes a note of it and won't be doing anything about it. Why have the penalty point system? Why have a driving test at all then if that is the only punishment for going around it

ohnonotgmail

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Not mentioned in the court report, something like that would be mentioned by the court reporter. Unlikely to be the case.

Just looking at the report from Jason Byrne's is disgraceful, the fact he was driving while disqualified was only 'taken into consideration', which basically means the court takes a note of it and won't be doing anything about it. Why have the penalty point system? Why have a driving test at all then if that is the only punishment for going around it

she asked for a "last chance". she was disqualified for 6 years. Not forgetting the custodial sentence. that is enough to tell you it wasnt her first offence.

LollipopJimmy

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

she asked for a "last chance". she was disqualified for 6 years. Not forgetting the custodial sentence. that is enough to tell you it wasnt her first offence.

So no licence and no insurance is ok if it's a first offence? Do we all have this 'life' if we drive while disqualified?

ohnonotgmail

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

So no licence and no insurance is ok if it's a first offence? Do we all have this 'life' if we drive while disqualified?

nobody said it was ok.

boardsuser1

You could be sure as hell if my tacho wasn't in order i'd be thrown to the wolves.

The imbalance of justice in the road traffic system is very obvious.

Why didn't he get a taxi?

He's not short in the first place and secondly a taxi wouldn't have cost him €500 return.

He isn't the only parent in Ireland with a child in a school on a dangerous road.

His 'celebrity' status is probably what saved him.

Garda cooperation or not that isn't a reason for leniency .

You could be sure if he was 'Joe Bloggs' he'd have gotten a ban.

I've never heard of someone before getting caught driving while disqualified not getting a further disqualification.

foxy farmer

Wonder what Byrne got the 13 points for. Sounds like a reckless motorist tbh. Kid might be off not in the car with him in any case.

ohnonotgmail

foxy farmer wrote: »

Wonder what Byrne got the 13 points for. Sounds like a reckless motorist tbh. Kid might be off not in the car with him in any case.

it was mentioned in the article.

honda boi

Cork Truck Driver wrote: »

You could be sure as hell if my tacho wasn't in order i'd be thrown to the wolves.

The imbalance of justice in the road traffic system is very obvious.

Why didn't he get a taxi?

He's not short in the first place and secondly a taxi wouldn't have cost him €500 return.

He isn't the only parent in Ireland with a child in a school on a dangerous road.

His 'celebrity' status is probably what saved him.

Garda cooperation or not that isn't a reason for leniency .

You could be sure if he was 'Joe Bloggs' he'd have gotten a ban.

I've never heard of someone before getting caught driving while disqualified not getting a further disqualification.

I've watched that stop search and seize program.
And when a trucker has something up with his tacho they pounce and wanna send them to the joy for it.
But yet plenty people I've heard with nothing on there cars get a slap on the wrist.
"Ah poor Jimmy, its only his 7th time in court,let's give him another chance".

boardsuser1

honda boi wrote: »

I've watched that stop search and seize program.
And when a trucker has something up with his tacho they pounce and wanna send them to the joy for it.
But yet plenty people I've heard with nothing on there cars get a slap on the wrist.
"Ah poor Jimmy, its only his 7th time in court,let's give him another chance".

Spot on there.

DaveyDave

I remember hearing about some knacker in her early 20s who was drunk at a party threatening to assualt people, I think she might have assaulted the Gardai at the scene, but the court was lenient on her because she had a kid and this troubled life crap, she had something like 80 previous convictions!!! It's a joke. Same with the drivers on the Garda Twitter. It's good to see they're getting caught, fined, cars seized etc but they'll be back on the roads as always.

A troubled life isn't an excuse. These people don't help themselves so we shouldn't help them, it's nobody elses problem.

LollipopJimmy

DaveyDave wrote: »

I remember hearing about some knacker in her early 20s who was drunk at a party threatening to assualt people, I think she might have assaulted the Gardai at the scene, but the court was lenient on her because she had a kid and this troubled life crap, she had something like 80 previous convictions!!! It's a joke. Same with the drivers on the Garda Twitter. It's good to see they're getting caught, fined, cars seized etc but they'll be back on the roads as always.

A troubled life isn't an excuse. These people don't help themselves so we shouldn't help them, it's nobody elses problem.

No issues with any of that. But why was Jason Byrne treated differently?

honda boi

DaveyDave wrote: »

I remember hearing about some knacker in her early 20s who was drunk at a party threatening to assualt people, I think she might have assaulted the Gardai at the scene, but the court was lenient on her because she had a kid and this troubled life crap, she had something like 80 previous convictions!!! It's a joke. Same with the drivers on the Garda Twitter. It's good to see they're getting caught, fined, cars seized etc but they'll be back on the roads as always.

A troubled life isn't an excuse. These people don't help themselves so we shouldn't help them, it's nobody elses problem.

If you,ve had a 'bad' upbringing or rich your Probaly grand going to court.
But for the average joe trying to keep a roof over his families head will probaly get screwed

John_Rambo

Cork Truck Driver wrote: »

You could be sure as hell if my tacho wasn't in order i'd be thrown to the wolves

Not meaning to derail the thread, but my French housemate a few years ago was always amazed that he had to work much more hours than a truck driver or a pilot was allowed to drive.

I told him he'd only kill one person if he screwed up. He's a surgeon. A shoulder surgeon, so he'd only screw up one persons shoulder. Every time :pac:

boardsuser1

John_Rambo wrote: »

Not meaning to derail the thread, but my French housemate a few years ago was always amazed that he had to work much more hours than a truck driver or a pilot was allowed to drive.

I told him he'd only kill one person if he screwed up. He's a surgeon. A shoulder surgeon, so he'd only screw up one persons shoulder. Every time :pac:

Doctors/Surgeons/Medical professionals are far better paid than us.

They play an important role though, much more than me dragging goods around the country.

You're right about the one person at a time though :pac:

John_Rambo

Cork Truck Driver wrote: »

Doctors/Surgeons/Medical professionals are far better paid than us.

They play an important role though, much more than me dragging goods around the country.

You're right about the one person at a time though :pac:

Ah hear... I feel like I just demeaned your job now.

We all really appreciate you dragging our sheet up and down the country!

*makes that heart shape with hands against a setting sunset on a beach that's all so popular on FB and twitter... for all truck drivers!

boardsuser1

John_Rambo wrote: »

Ah hear... I feel like I just demeaned your job now.

We all really appreciate you dragging our sheet up and down the country!

*makes that heart shape with hands against a setting sunset on a beach that's all so popular on FB and twitter... for all truck drivers!

Don't worry, be happy

I know every boardsie can't live their daily life without using something dragged around by us truckers

It's all good my man

John_Rambo

Cork Truck Driver wrote: »

Don't worry, be happy

I know every boardsie can't live their daily life without using something dragged around by us truckers

It's all good my man

Including the surgeons/doctors/medical practitioners.

Let's here it for the Truck Drivers!!!

We'll get a *edit MOTEL* room now! (before the usual smartarse gets there before me)

boardsuser1

John_Rambo wrote: »

Including the surgeons/doctors/medical practitioners.

Let's here it for the Truck Drivers!!!

We'll get a *edit MOTEL* room now! (before the usual smartarse gets there before me)

:pac: