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I've just coined a word : wollocks

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Well done, nice *ahem* work.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    The picture used ...

    428758.jpeg

    "Woman and man talking" eh? Looks more like man about to get a bollocking for something he did wrong, but is completely in the dark about what wrong he did. There ya go sexist stereotype for bonus points. :D

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Making up your own words?? (that are derivatives of the word bollox).

    What absolute shnollox!


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Good video on a similar topic:



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Saruhashi



    Hepeated. Haha. Very good.

    I can't imagine such a situation happening in real life exactly as described there.

    Can you imagine being in a situation with friends...

    Female Friend: Let's get pizza.
    Everyone: Nah, I don't fancy pizza.
    Male Friend : Let's get pizza.
    Everyone: Yes! Pizza! Pizza!

    It would probably never happen and if it did it would basically be done as a tactic to bully that woman out of the circle of "friends".

    I can imagine for sure a situation where a woman makes a suggestion at a meeting in work and it gets shot down but a few weeks later a change in circumstances means the suggestion is raised again by a different employee and is approved.

    The way it is described in the tweets is like something from an American sitcom or some other kind of comedy skit.

    Innocent Female Employee: We should do a viral marketing campaign.
    Evil Male Boss: Silence! That's a terrible idea!
    ...
    (later that afternoon)
    ...
    Evil Male Boss: We should do a viral marketing campaign.
    Evil Male Board of Directors: GIVE THAT MAN A RAISE!

    Feminism has become such a joke that they are now inventing words to describe the situations that they have also invented. Amazing.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Saruhashi wrote: »
    Hepeated. Haha. Very good.

    I can't imagine such a situation happening in real life exactly as described there.

    Can you imagine being in a situation with friends...

    Female Friend: Let's get pizza.
    Everyone: Nah, I don't fancy pizza.
    Male Friend : Let's get pizza.
    Everyone: Yes! Pizza! Pizza!

    It would probably never happen and if it did it would basically be done as a tactic to bully that woman out of the circle of "friends".

    I can imagine for sure a situation where a woman makes a suggestion at a meeting in work and it gets shot down but a few weeks later a change in circumstances means the suggestion is raised again by a different employee and is approved.

    The way it is described in the tweets is like something from an American sitcom or some other kind of comedy skit.

    Innocent Female Employee: We should do a viral marketing campaign.
    Evil Male Boss: Silence! That's a terrible idea!
    ...
    (later that afternoon)
    ...
    Evil Male Boss: We should do a viral marketing campaign.
    Evil Male Board of Directors: GIVE THAT MAN A RAISE!

    Feminism has become such a joke that they are now inventing words to describe the situations that they have also invented. Amazing.

    I think something that probably happens a lot is that person A says something in a group of say 10 and no one but person B hears it, because people were talking over one another or person A said it quietly etc. Person B then repeats it louder or more clearly and then the group agrees with it. In that situation, person A feels that they were ignored for the same idea that person B was lauded for. But it could be the way it was said, or maybe person B is more respected in the group etc.

    While that is a common feature of group discussions, I don't believe that it is a gendered issue. If person A happens to be a woman and person B is a charismatic man who everyone tends to follow, obviously it is going to seem like it is patriarchy at work, but in the absence of scientific data and control groups there's no real way of knowing what the causes of this phenonenon is. I seriously doubt it is a giant conspiracy of men trying to belittle women.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    No, it's a case of gender studies graduates with a chip on their shoulder throwing their toys out of the pram when other's won't "play nice" (i.e. do what they're told) and inventing bull**** terms to explain why it's the patriarchy's fault that no one cares for their input.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Some new words here in this piece:

    http://districtmagazine.ie/bro-choice-irish-lads-are-critical-to-repealing-the-8th-amendment/

    Bro-choice! Basically, after alienating men for no clear reason for the last few years, the feminist press suddenly realised that alienaing half th voting population is a bad idea and tries to win them back to the cause in an incredibly patronising article. Its like a think tank came together and said "what do men like? Steroids, loud music and being cool. Got it. Lets associate those things with the pro choice movement and men will follow."

    The most bafflig paragraph is this one:
    The Alt-Bro’s cousin, once removed is The Lad. To keep this brief we need ‘The Lads’. You’ve probably met one in a bar. You know the type – friendly, of a generally well-meaning disposition, almost always happy, possessing abnormally high levels of ‘soundness’, doesn’t seem to have the best luck in his love life regardless of how good looking and generally ‘sound’ he is although this is generally a topic of light hearted fun rather than a deep-seeded existential crisis. Compliments tend to fly under his radar, and can have a great night among any social group once there are a few cans involved. He’s possibly from Donegal and he most definitely has a very active Paddy Power account to bet on horse racing tips he gets from a closed Facebook group he pays 20 quid a month into.

    As someone who is almost certainly going to vote in favour of repeal the eightamendment, I find a lot of this pandering nonsense to be really trying at times.

    You dont need a vacuous new word to get men to vote for repeal, you need to treat them like equal human beings, a concept seemingly unknown to the now ubiquitous feminist dogma. They want to treat men now as they believe women were treated in the past.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    "deep-seeded existential crisis". Deep-seeded? Deep seated you cretinous hack. Jesus. 429035.gif It's not the only example going on in that piece of twaddle.

    As for some of the other dissonance going on...
    mix of hardline feminists (those people who just like the idea of equality really)
    Lest anyone thinks hardline feminists are not into equality. He(assuming gender by name trigger) must be getting his definition of equality from the same dictionary as "deep seeded".

    "Bros of Ireland". Jesus. Part Deux. 429035.gif It's written like a middle aged man would write thinking that's how "the kidz" think. It should give one some idea of how many people this guy knows and what the makeup of his personal demographic is.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Wollocks has been around for years with the Conemara men , and wicycle and wodka also !


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Bullocks wrote: »
    Wollocks has been around for years with the Conemara men !

    Would that not be mnàllocks ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    I think something that probably happens a lot is that person A says something in a group of say 10 and no one but person B hears it, because people were talking over one another or person A said it quietly etc. Person B then repeats it louder or more clearly and then the group agrees with it. In that situation, person A feels that they were ignored for the same idea that person B was lauded for. But it could be the way it was said, or maybe person B is more respected in the group etc.

    While that is a common feature of group discussions, I don't believe that it is a gendered issue. If person A happens to be a woman and person B is a charismatic man who everyone tends to follow, obviously it is going to seem like it is patriarchy at work, but in the absence of scientific data and control groups there's no real way of knowing what the causes of this phenonenon is. I seriously doubt it is a giant conspiracy of men trying to belittle women.

    +1, this happens but it's not gendered. Sometimes a person is more persuasive or more liked and people listen to them more. It's shitty but life is sometimes unfair. It's not a gender issue.
    Sleepy wrote: »
    No, it's a case of gender studies graduates with a chip on their shoulder throwing their toys out of the pram when other's won't "play nice" (i.e. do what they're told) and inventing bull**** terms to explain why it's the patriarchy's fault that no one cares for their input.

    Jays, you have a real bee in your bonnet about Gender Studies courses. :D I'd kinda love to be a fly on the wall in your house if a daughter of yours came home and announced that she was picking it as her degree subject. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    Jays, you have a real bee in your bonnet about Gender Studies courses. :D I'd kinda love to be a fly on the wall in your house if a daughter of yours came home and announced that she was picking it as her degree subject. :P
    Honestly, I think I'm raising her better than that but should it happen, she'll be on her own. My kids are free to make their own mistakes but I won't support such stupid ones.

    FWIW, my daughter's turning 9 next week and her current ambition is to be a vet or a zoo keeper during the week and a cowgirl at the weekends.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    Sleepy wrote: »
    Honestly, I think I'm raising her better than that but should it happen, she'll be on her own. My kids are free to make their own mistakes but I won't support such stupid ones.

    FWIW, my daughter's turning 9 next week and her current ambition is to be a vet or a zoo keeper during the week and a cowgirl at the weekends.:pac:

    So far, so standard but you just never know...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Watching my kids throw their lives away is certainly one of my nightmares, but they're being raised to realise that they won't be able to rely on the bank of Mammy & Daddy for their adult lives because that simply won't be an option for us.

    I've definitely noticed a correlation between socio-economic background and likelihood of students choosing paths of study with no career prospects. Those few making money out of subjects like gender studies tend to be doing so on the back of Daddy's political or business connections (in Ireland at least) and are stunningly oblivious to the irony in this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,994 ✭✭✭ambro25


    I've long used "bollotox", either as a forum-friendlier alternative to 'bollocks', or to designate social media guff (particularly selfies and similar other vanity pursuits/topics).

    IDK if anyone else ever coined it first, but I don't recall ever hearing it or seeing it before I coined from (fairly obvious etymology) bollocks and botox.

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭storker


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    Jays, you have a real bee in your bonnet about Gender Studies courses. :D I'd kinda love to be a fly on the wall in your house if a daughter of yours came home and announced that she was picking it as her degree subject. :P

    We are saving towards our daughters' college fees, but I've already said that only "real" subjects will be bankrolled. By "real", I don't just mean STEM subjects and excluding arts and humanities subjects, but rather things like gender studies and womens' studies that I believe have no place in a university because as far as I can see they are more belief systems than academic subjects.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    storker wrote: »
    We are saving towards our daughters' college fees, but I've already said that only "real" subjects will be bankrolled. By "real", I don't just mean STEM subjects and excluding arts and humanities subjects, but rather things like gender studies and womens' studies that I believe have no place in a university because as far as I can see they are more belief systems than academic subjects.

    Gender studies wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't just a bunch of pre-decided notions. I think it's anti-intellectual to say that a subject shouldn't be studied. IMO any subject deserves further study by dedicated academics. We'd be in a poor way if everyone only wanted to use their third-level studies to score industry jobs. We need researchers and thinkers. But gender studies doesn't seem too interested in anything other than finding all the ways women are oppressed. So that's ALSO anti-intellectual. No consideration of the issues men face.


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