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Looking for rough idea on cost

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  • 22-09-2017 10:40pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭


    Looking for a rough idea on a price for the below

    Knocking down 2 stud walls about 20 feet long(not load bearing)
    Removing gas fire
    Taking up 30 kitchen floor tiles
    Removing toilet and sink
    Fitting 8 spot lights

    All plastering done as well

    Got one quote but found it high


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,140 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    What was the quote?


  • Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Umpalumpa


    BryanF wrote: »
    What was the quote?

    6k not including VAT


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    Umpalumpa wrote: »
    6k not including VAT

    Wow I reckon that was an eff off price unless there's something missing like your on a 6th floor apartment with no lifts or something
    Half that would be a well paid job in normal circumstances.


  • Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Umpalumpa


    Wow I reckon that was an eff off price unless there's something missing like your on a 6th floor apartment with no lifts or something
    Half that would be a well paid job in normal circumstances.

    Nah normal house.I did think it was a crazy figure but I have no experience pricing a job.
    Hopefully the second quote comes in a lot cheaper.

    Don't think it was a f off quote as the builder has rang me twice asking if I am hiring him


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    Umpalumpa wrote: »
    Nah normal house.I did think it was a crazy figure but I have no experience pricing a job.
    Hopefully the second quote comes in a lot cheaper.

    Don't think it was a f off quote as the builder has rang me twice asking if I am hiring him

    So would I if I tought you were going to bite at that price feck it I'd even bring you out for dinner after wards


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,140 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    Umpalumpa wrote: »
    Looking for a rough idea on a price for the below

    1. Knocking down 2 stud walls about 20 feet long(not load bearing)
    2. Removing gas fire
    3. Taking up 30 kitchen floor tiles
    4. Removing toilet and sink
    5. Fitting 8 spot lights

    6. All plastering done as well

    Got one quote but found it high

    1. General builder. Does works require making good before skimming?
    2. Register gas eng. does work require removal of gas pipe to other location? Builder making good?
    3. Once tiles are removed, who deals with floor prep, skirting, making good assuming whoever is tilling won't be doing that.
    4. Just removal? Capping drains or digging out? What level of making good is required?
    5. Electrician - rate per spot, cabling back to main board or can local spur accommodate?

    6. Access
    7. Location for skip. Hire.
    8. Time to coordinated and effort/time making good after gas, plumbing & electrics
    9. Duration of contract. Dust Protection. You moving out? Clean as you go or at the end?

    OP there is no way to even guesstimate this work. get 3 quotes


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,512 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    I think there is a lot more work being done that your not describing in the op.
    I think you need to describe the work more for use to judge the job

    what are plastering or is it just patching .

    remove toilet and sink is a small job, there must be more involved than that

    can you elaborate please


  • Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Umpalumpa


    I think there is a lot more work being done that your not describing in the op.
    I think you need to describe the work more for use to judge the job

    what are plastering or is it just patching .

    remove toilet and sink is a small job, there must be more involved than that

    can you elaborate please

    Everything I've said is in the first post
    The builder said he is going to plaster and "make good" all areas.
    We are putting in a washing machine and dryer into the down stairs toilet so he needs to add a couple of sockets


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,512 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Umpalumpa wrote: »
    Everything I've said is in the first post
    The builder said he is going to plaster and "make good" all areas.
    We are putting in a washing machine and dryer into the down stairs toilet so he needs to add a couple of sockets

    I'm just trying to find out why the quote is so high


  • Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Umpalumpa


    I'm just trying to find out why the quote is so high

    Thats the puzzle
    I tried pricing the jobs separate from other people online excluding plastering and it comes in roughly around 3k


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,512 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    just did back of a fag box calculation based on what you say I could see it between 3-4000 plus vat.
    hard to tell without seeing it

    what are you doing. are you knocking 2 rooms and bathroom into one big room. can we have a more over all description of the job


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    Umpalumpa wrote: »
    Thats the puzzle
    I tried pricing the jobs separate from other people online excluding plastering and it comes in roughly around 3k

    Is there radiators on the stud walls
    Exactly how much plastering is involved is it just patching up or is there new ceilings going in.
    Your only real barometer is an actual builder out looking at it on line pricing generally covers worst case scenario .
    Is there any reason there might be a premium added like a short time frame . A well to do address poor access


  • Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Umpalumpa


    just did back of a fag box calculation based on what you say I could see it between 3-4000 plus vat.
    hard to tell without seeing it

    what are you doing. are you knocking 2 rooms and bathroom into one big room. can we have a more over all description of the job

    Taking down the wall separating kitchen and hall
    Taking out wall separating kitchen and sitting room making it open planned.
    We are keeping the down stairs bathroom but putting in washing machine and dryer


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    Umpalumpa wrote: »
    Taking down the wall separating kitchen and hall
    Taking out wall separating kitchen and sitting room making it open planned.
    We are keeping the down stairs bathroom but putting in washing machine and dryer

    So is there relocation of rads involved
    Relocation of switches
    If so that much hacking of the ceilings prob a brand new ceiling to be plasterboarded and skimmed


  • Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Umpalumpa


    Is there radiators on the stud walls
    Exactly how much plastering is involved is it just patching up or is there new ceilings going in.
    Your only real barometer is an actual builder out looking at it on line pricing generally covers worst case scenario .
    Is there any reason there might be a premium added like a short time frame . A well to do address poor access

    Access is good and not sure how much plastering will be involved.
    Not getting ceilings done


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,512 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    so your removing the toilet and sink but leaving the room and putting in a washing machine and dryer. all the plumbing would be there only just a bit of rearranging. is the wall an outside wall for the dryer to vent outside.


  • Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Umpalumpa


    so your removing the toilet and sink but leaving the room and putting in a washing machine and dryer. all the plumbing would be there only just a bit of rearranging. is the wall an outside wall for the dryer to vent outside.

    No not an outside wall so no vent


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,512 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    what did the builders quote say about the scope of work. , there must be more work being done than you realise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Umpalumpa


    So is there relocation of rads involved
    Relocation of switches
    If so that much hacking of the ceilings prob a brand new ceiling to be plasterboarded and skimmed

    No rads need to be moved
    The wall that's getting taken down is where the kitchen sink is.the wall also has a couple of sockets


  • Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Umpalumpa


    what did the builders quote say about the scope of work. , there must be more work being done than you realise.

    Didn't say it was a complicated job.
    Said it would be a weeks work


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,512 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Umpalumpa wrote: »
    No not an outside wall so no vent

    how is the dryer being vented. where is the waste going . it cant go into the toilet waste pipe


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    Umpalumpa wrote: »
    No rads need to be moved
    The wall that's getting taken down is where the kitchen sink is.the wall also has a couple of sockets

    Ah now we're getting somewhere the water services and waste pipes will have to be relocated to the new position of the sink .
    Do you have concrete floors depending on distance can be a nightmare


  • Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Umpalumpa


    Ah now we're getting somewhere the water services and waste pipes will have to be relocated to the new position of the sink .
    Do you have concrete floors depending on distance can be a nightmare

    The position of the sink is moving about 2 feet
    We ha e concrete floors


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    Umpalumpa wrote: »
    The position of the sink is moving about 2 feet
    We ha e concrete floors

    Scratches head


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    Umpalumpa wrote: »
    Taking down the wall separating kitchen and hall
    Taking out wall separating kitchen and sitting room making it open planned.
    We are keeping the down stairs bathroom but putting in washing machine and dryer


    They're two fairly important walls in a normal house one of them must be 99 times out of 100 load bearing .
    Who said they weren't load bearing did you get an engineer to sign off it was safe to remove with out some form of certified structural support.
    Not been an ass about it just trying to find something that the builder might of neglected to inform you but justifies the 6k plus vat cost


  • Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Umpalumpa


    They're two fairly important walls in a normal house one of them must be 99 times out of 100 load bearing .
    Who said they weren't load bearing did you get an engineer to sign off it was safe to remove with out some form of certified structural support.
    Not been an ass about it just trying to find something that the builder might of neglected to inform you but justifies the 6k plus vat cost

    Houses beside us had the walls knocked down by builders repairing the houses from pyrite.
    They also said they where not supporting walls


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,512 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    it seems high. maybe the builder values his time highly and charges accordingly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Umpalumpa


    it seems high. maybe the builder values his time highly and charges accordingly.

    Perhaps
    He did say I would find a cheaper quote but the finish wouldn't be as good as his work(odd thing to say)


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,140 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    Umpalumpa wrote: »
    pyrite.
    this job is getting stickier


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  • Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Umpalumpa


    BryanF wrote: »
    this job is getting stickier

    How so?my house is completely pyrite free


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