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Match Ups

  • 19-09-2017 12:25pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭


    This is probably a bit lame and probably a bit done but I keep thinking about fighting match-ups in GOT and how they'd pan out. The show has been so good at building up great fighters that you can't help but think about who would win between them. These are the fights I would have liked to see - chosen based on my belief that they would offer an interesting fight with the winner not at all obvious.

    Bronn Vs Daario Naharis
    Both cocky, smart talking, swash-buckling fighters who usually win their fights as much thanks to guile as actual fighting skills. This would be a fascinating fight. Size-wise, Daario probably has the edge but both are battle-hardened and it's hard to bet against Bronn.
    My Winner: Daario

    Brienne Vs The Mountain (before he was zombified)
    In a fight between two people whose size is their main attribute the bigger one is undoubtedly the favourite. However, Brienne never knows when she's beaten and I could see her swinging away and giving Gregor something to think about. I'd give Brienne a good chance but this is probably the easiest of the lot to call as surely the Mountain would prove too strong.
    My Winner: The Mountain

    Eddard Stark Vs The Hound
    Both seem a similar fighter - unspectacular but they're battle hardened and tough as old nails. We didn't see a lot of Ned fighting in the series but he clearly knows what he's doing and managed to at least stay with Jaime Lannister for a while. However, Ned was perhaps more of a leader than a pure fighter whereas the Hound loved nothing more than killing.
    My Winner: The Hound

    Khal Drogo Vs Oberyn Martell
    Oberyn seemed almost invincible when he fought the Mountain until he dropped his guard. Drogo, similarly, seemed untouchable in the few scene of him we saw. Could Oberyn keep Drogo at bay with his spear? I suspect not. Where the Mountain presented a big target, Drogo's speed would get him past Oberyn's defences.
    My Winner: Drogo

    Barristan Selmy (Old) Vs Jaime Lannister (2 Hands).
    I presume a younger Selmy would win but in his older age would Jaime be a match for him? It's hard to know just how good Jaime was. He's certainly talked up and seemed to hold a fearsome reputation but we didn't see a lot of him fighting.Still, he's young and obviously skilled.
    My Winner: Jaime (Youth wins out)

    Any other decent match-ups?


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Jaime (2 hands) vs Arthur Dayne
    We never really got to see much of Jaime fighting in the show (aside from the scrap with Ned in KL) but by all accounts he was formidable. Arthur Dayne easily took apart Ned's men at the Tower of Joy and it would be interesting to see how Jaime would have handled that.
    The Winner: I will call it a draw. I would need to see a good bit more of both in action before giving an answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Clegane Bowl

    Hound -v- The Mountain

    It is coming.

    Bronn Vs Daario Naharis

    Bronn's too old and would be dead inside two minutes.

    Brienne Vs The Mountain (before he was zombified)

    Without her strength he would annilate her.

    Eddard Stark Vs The Hound

    The Hound. Not even close.

    Khal Drogo Vs Oberyn Martell

    Martell. Drogo is not a trained skilled warrior in one on one combat.


    I'd like to See

    Two hand Jamie v Jon Snow. - I think Jamie

    Daneyrs -v- Cercei. Giggity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,366 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I think people are writing Brienne off a bit quick TBH. She'd be tall enough, strong enough and quick enough to parry his attacks and none of those were her key strength. Her key strength is endurance, and that's almost exactly how Oberyn out-fought The Mountain, he wore him down by dancing around him and got in his thrusts when the Mountain was getting tired.

    Add in the fact she won the mêlée at Bitterbridge and that she beat an, admittedly weakened, Hound (who we can be pretty certain will kill Gregor before the series ends) I think she might surprise a few were she to come head to head with The Mountain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,476 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Deanerys Targaryren Vs Cersei Lannister - Neither one of them have ever gotten physical in the show, but in a fight to the death or a hand to hand fight. I'd give the edge to Cersei just because she strikes me as being stronger of the two, and more dangerous as well.

    Cersei Lannister Vs Catelyn Stark - Now this one i'm mixed on. Both seem tougher and stronger than they look. I give the edge to Catelyn though because I could see her strangling the life out of Cersei.

    Jon Snow Vs Robb Stark - I think Robb takes after his father in that he is a good battle commander and i've read that Robb is better on horseback than Jon. But Jon has always been described as being the more capable of the two with a sword. Although in the show Jon says Robb was better than him at everything. I'll say Jon because I haven't seen Robb in battle, and by all accounts seems to be a better swordsman.

    Ser Barristan Selmy Vs Ser Arthur Dayne - Here we have two high respected and highly skilled knights. Both in their prime were said to be among the best knights in the land. So a prime Selmy Vs a prime Dayne would be a fight to behold. I'll say Arthur Dayne though based on his reputation. But never underestimate Barristan the Bold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭Mousewar


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    Ser Barristan Selmy Vs Ser Arthur Dayne - Here we have two high respected and highly skilled knights. Both in their prime were said to be among the best knights in the land. So a prime Selmy Vs a prime Dayne would be a fight to behold. I'll say Arthur Dayne though based on his reputation. But never underestimate Barristan the Bold.

    GRRM was asked about this one. He said if Dayne had his fancy sword (The sword of the Morning) he'd win but otherwise it would be a toss up between them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,455 ✭✭✭weemcd


    Prime Jamie vs Jon is a battle for the ages, I'd lean towards Jamie based on what I've read. Though Jon is not to be underestimated (many have, to their peril)

    The Hound vs Tormund - two huge warriors with physical attributes to match each other. Hound has fought many battles against high level competition. Tormund possibly not as much but he is a ferocious man on his day. Leaning towards the hound to be a bit more crafty after a long, hard fought battle.

    Grey Worm vs Jorah - I'd expect the worm to be much faster and wear aul Jorah down over time, though to paraphrase the man himself he did defeat a Dothraki bloodrider in one on one combat. If Jorah did win it would be through grit, guile and determination.

    Jorah vs Bronn anyone, how does that go?

    I'd pay good money to see more of Oberyn vs anyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,476 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    weemcd wrote: »
    Jorah vs Bronn anyone, how does that go

    The thing about Bronn is that he's very unorthodox when fighting. He fights dirty and uses cunning to get the upperhand. He defeated Ser Vardis Egen in one on one combat during Tyron's trial. He also killed Ser Balman Byrch who was sent to kill Bronn in A Feast of Crows, he engaged Bronn in one on one combat and Bronn defeated him using dirty tactics. I'd be very afraid for Jorah if he tries to fight Bronn in a clean fight. But if Jorah is able to match Bronn's fighting style then I'd say Jorah.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    Hasn't Jorah been, in general pretty useless when it came to a fight in the show. It seems more of a reputation preceding him kind of situation.

    In multiple cases he's only survived because someone else intervened on his behalf just before he was killed.

    in one to one combat, I'd be 100% backing Bronn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Hasn't Jorah been, in general pretty useless when it came to a fight in the show. It seems more of a reputation preceding him kind of situation.

    In multiple cases he's only survived because someone else intervened on his behalf just before he was killed.

    in one to one combat, I'd be 100% backing Bronn.

    He killed that Dothraki back in season 1 in fairness
    He is a quality fighter, I mean Jon Snow was saved more times than Jorah


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭Mousewar


    weemcd wrote: »
    Prime Jamie vs Jon is a battle for the ages, I'd lean towards Jamie based on what I've read. Though Jon is not to be underestimated (many have, to their peril)
    Can't see this being anything other than a straightforward win for Jaime. The show hasn't suggested Jon is especially talented as a sword fighter. I mean, he's clearly very good but most of the People he defeats are just cannon fodder. He's a trained fighter so can beat most but I don't see him challenging two handed Jaime at all.
    weemcd wrote: »
    The Hound vs Tormund - two huge warriors with physical attributes to match each other. Hound has fought many battles against high level competition. Tormund possibly not as much but he is a ferocious man on his day. Leaning towards the hound to be a bit more crafty after a long, hard fought battle.

    Good shout but the Hound would win. They're both ferocious but the Hound is bigger.
    weemcd wrote: »
    Grey Worm vs Jorah - I'd expect the worm to be much faster and wear aul Jorah down over time, though to paraphrase the man himself he did defeat a Dothraki bloodrider in one on one combat. If Jorah did win it would be through grit, guile and determination.

    Jorah vs Bronn anyone, how does that go?

    Jorah loses both. He's a trained knight so he'll defeat the commoners but he's struggled every time he's come up against a decent fighter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭Mousewar


    You know what I've never understood. When we met Khal Drogo, Jorah told Dani that his hair was so long as he's never been defeated and explained how the Dothraki cut their hair when beaten. But I mean, how often does someone, especially a Dothraki, lose a fight and not die? I mean, of course he's undefeated. He'd be dead if he wasn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,366 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    weemcd wrote: »
    Prime Jamie vs Jon is a battle for the ages, I'd lean towards Jamie based on what I've read. Though Jon is not to be underestimated (many have, to their peril)
    Jamie in his prime would butcher Jon. Even more so in the books where Jon would be about 12 to Jamie's 30-something...
    The Hound vs Tormund - two huge warriors with physical attributes to match each other. Hound has fought many battles against high level competition. Tormund possibly not as much but he is a ferocious man on his day. Leaning towards the hound to be a bit more crafty after a long, hard fought battle.
    Leaning? Sandor Clegane wears proper steel armour and swings a castle-forged sword. As brave as Tormund is, the Hound would massacre him.
    Grey Worm vs Jorah - I'd expect the worm to be much faster and wear aul Jorah down over time, though to paraphrase the man himself he did defeat a Dothraki bloodrider in one on one combat. If Jorah did win it would be through grit, guile and determination.
    I'd give this one to Jorah. Grey Worm is a, highly trained, infantry soldier in a army whose strength is based on their shield wall tactics. The show has portrayed them as being utterly ineffectual in one-on-one combat and Jorah hasn't survived all his years in Esteros without learning a few dirty tricks.
    Jorah vs Bronn anyone, how does that go?
    Bronn. Every time. He's younger, faster and far more vicious.
    I'd pay good money to see more of Oberyn vs anyone.
    If only!


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