Unmapped charge points nationwide

miamee

I've only recently realised that there are a number of chargers around that are not on the e-cars app but are accessible to the public, i.e. not in a car dealership or hotel car park. I thought it might be worth collating them all in one spot here in case any of us are ever stuck!

The ones I know of off the top of my head:

Dublin - there are 5 slow charge points in the dlr lexicon car park in Dun Laoghaire. This is a paid car park, €2.40 per hour. Map.

Mayo - there is a 7kw charger in the Dunnes Stores car park, Humbert Street, Ballina. Map.

KCross

You should look at getting them added to this website which is supposed to have all the eCars charge points already so any extras would make it a one stop shop for all chargers

https://www.zap-map.com

miamee

Good idea, I've only recently heard of ZapMap but haven't used it myself yet.

unkel

Drogheda Lidl triple head ABB fast charger. Better than any of the public efacec triple head fast chargers the ESB has in Ireland.

Here

n97 mini

unkel wrote: »

Drogheda Lidl triple head ABB fast charger. Better than any of the public efacec triple head fast chargers the ESB has in Ireland.

Here

That's on the ecars map already though.

cros13

Hilton Kilmainham - Type 1 tethered 7.2kW
Kildare Village - 4 x 22kW

IKEA Belfast - 50kW rapid (Ecotricity)

Aldi Sallynoggin - 2 x 7.2kW + 1 x 22kW

Belmore Court Enniskillen - 1 x 7.2kW + 1 x three-pin plug

North Main St & Paul St car parks in Cork - 2 x 3.6kW each

Stormont in Belfast has it's own 22kWs too

Ocean View Chalets in Ballycastle have a 22kW

Asda in Enniskillen, Bangor and Portadown all have multiple 7.2kW chargepoints (on POLAR's network)

All 17 Tesla Destination charging locations work with all Type 2 cars (except ZOE)

About 20 chargepoints in NI are public sector chargepoints freely available at council offices and leisure centers.

reboot

cros13 wrote: »

Hilton Kilmainham - Type 1 tethered 7.2kW
Kildare Village - 4 x 22kW

IKEA Belfast - 50kW rapid (Ecotricity)

Aldi Sallynoggin - 2 x 7.2kW + 1 x 22kW

Belmore Court Enniskillen - 1 x 7.2kW + 1 x three-pin plug

North Main St & Paul St car parks in Cork - 2 x 3.6kW each

Stormont in Belfast has it's own 22kWs too

Ocean View Chalets in Ballycastle have a 22kW

Asda in Enniskillen, Bangor and Portadown all have multiple 7.2kW chargepoints (on POLAR's network)

All 17 Tesla Destination charging locations work with all Type 2 cars (except ZOE)

About 20 chargepoints in NI are public sector chargepoints freely available at council offices and leisure centers.

Not a single public sector CP in S Down. How many people at Stormont I wonder drive EV?

miamee

Kildare Village 4 x 22kW chargers there in the car park, accessible during shopping hours only I'd say. We were happy to use them when we paid a visit at the weekend.

Location. When you drive in from the main road, turn into the car park on the left, you'll pass a bus stop/hut, the chargers are around near the back of that.

thierry14

unkel wrote: »

Drogheda Lidl triple head ABB fast charger. Better than any of the public efacec triple head fast chargers the ESB has in Ireland.

Here

Are they free to use?

Anyone figure out whats lidl deal yet with EV charging?

username?!

Is there no Ireland based mobile app for these?

jprboy

username?! wrote: »

Is there no Ireland based mobile app for these?

Zap Map:

https://www.zap-map.com/live/

liamog

ZapMap officially targets UK and Ireland. I use their app, I think it's somewhere in the settings to make Ireland the default.

waynegalway

jprboy wrote: »

Zap Map:

https://www.zap-map.com/live/

I've been looking at the Plug Share app. Seems okay, but I'm not an EV owner yet. Is the general consensus that zap map is better?

slave1

The charger in Asda Enniskillen has been changed to external 3 pin sockets

slave1

Athlone Town Centre car park has just installed 4 free to use slow chargers in their car park. Car park charges are €2 for up to three hours or €3 all day.

unkel

Old thread!

But might as well add that the new Tesco Extra in Lucan has (I think) 4 AC chargers, free to use (free parking). Petty they aren't fast DC chargers like the Lidl Drogheda

I don't see the point plugging in for half an hour while you do the shopping (and gaining 3.6kW or about €0.25 at night rate)

JackieChan

unkel wrote: »

Old thread!

But might as well add that the new Tesco Extra in Lucan has (I think) 4 AC chargers, free to use (free parking). Petty they aren't fast DC chargers like the Lidl Drogheda

I don't see the point plugging in for half an hour while you do the shopping (and gaining 3.6kW or about €0.25 at night rate)

For the sake of 20-30 seconds prep I would do it. free electrons is free electrons!

unkel

JackieChan wrote: »

For the sake of 20-30 seconds prep I would do it. free electrons is free electrons!

Have you timed yourself? Even if you don't have your cable in its bag, but just keep it fecked into the boot of your car with the end caps off, it will take a hell of a lot longer than 30s to take the cable out, plug it in at both ends, start the charge and the reverse when coming back to your car

All for just 25 cent gain...

JackieChan

unkel wrote: »

Have you timed yourself? Even if you don't have your cable in its bag, but just keep it fecked into the boot of your car with the end caps off, it will take a hell of a lot longer than 30s to take the cable out, plug it in at both ends, start the charge and the reverse when coming back to your car

All for just 25 cent gain...

time it and let me know

For me personally, I do a full charge less than once a week. A 30min charge would give me about a days worth of charge(3.2kwh for my daily commute according to Nissan EV app).

unkel

unkel wrote: »

Old thread!

But might as well add that the new Tesco Extra in Lucan has (I think) 4 AC chargers, free to use (free parking). Petty they aren't fast DC chargers like the Lidl Drogheda

I don't see the point plugging in for half an hour while you do the shopping (and gaining 3.6kW or about €0.25 at night rate)

Or you could have the i3 94 Ah and gain nearly 6 Kwh in the same time provided it's a 3 phase charger and the owner purchased a 3 phase charging lead but, not bad for a local looking for free leccy !

You could also get 11 Kwh in an hour , not bad, Ioniq with it's slow charger would get maybe 7 kwh.

Or Leaf 60 kwh if rumoured 22 Kw AC charger is correct will get 11 Kwh in that 30 mins or 22 Kw in an hour like the Zoe currently can.

So the real issue is slow charging chars like the current gen Ioniq.

DC is fine but you're not going to be able to have a bank of DC points in supermarkets as power will most likely not be available. So multiple AC points can still make a big difference to cars with fast chargers and not slow chargers like the Ioniq.

unkel

Deleted User wrote: »

provided it's a 3 phase charger

It's not.

Deleted User wrote: »

and the owner purchased a 3 phase charging lead

Only a fool an enthusiast with more money than sense would fork an extra several hundred euro for a 3 phase charging cable on top of the granny cable and standard 32A cable he already has :pac:

liamog

Deleted User wrote: »

Or you could have the i3 94 Ah and gain nearly 6 Kwh in the same time provided it's a 3 phase charger and the owner purchased a 3 phase charging lead but, not bad for a local looking for free leccy !

You could also get 11 Kwh in an hour , not bad, Ioniq with it's slow charger would get maybe 7 kwh.

Or Leaf 60 kwh if rumoured 22 Kw AC charger is correct will get 11 Kwh in that 30 mins or 22 Kw in an hour like the Zoe currently can.

So the real issue is slow charging chars like the current gen Ioniq.

DC is fine but you're not going to be able to have a bank of DC points in supermarkets as power will most likely not be available. So multiple AC points can still make a big difference to cars with fast chargers and not slow chargers like the Ioniq.

22kW AC doesn't really make sense in an Irish context, manufacturers are installing 3 phase charging for the continent where it's more common to have triple phase at home.


Replace all the 22kW AC Points with 24kW DC chargers instead, same effect (and same grid requirement).

slave1

Any hope those last 6/7 posts can be split out and just leave this thread to list unmapped charge points, this forum is very hard to navigate with the amount of off topic chat....I’ll report my own post to a mod....

unkel

unkel wrote: »

Only a fool an enthusiast with more money than sense would fork an extra several hundred euro for a 3 phase charging cable on top of the granny cable and standard 32A cable he already has :pac:

liamog wrote: »

22kW AC doesn't really make sense in an Irish context, manufacturers are installing 3 phase charging for the continent where it's more common to have triple phase at home.


Replace all the 22kW AC Points with 24kW DC chargers instead, same effect (and same grid requirement).

There are a lot of 3 phase AC points out there so it makes perfect sense to use them, I can get a full charge in just about 3 hrs or 22 Kwh in 2 hrs when in town so it works perfect sense for me, then I don't have to turn around and wait at a fast charger, I don't have to with the Rex of course but I try to use as much leccy as I can.

We have a good network of 22 Kw AC points not DC and until there are installations of 22 Kw DC then it makes more sense to use the network we have to it's full potential.

unkel

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't have to with the Rex of course but I try to use as much leccy as I can.

A quick calculation shows me it will take 11.7 years for your 3 phase cable to pay for itself

unkel

unkel wrote: »

A quick calculation shows me it will take 11.7 years for your 3 phase cable to pay for itself

Haha, probably but the convenience of not having to fast charge so much at inaccessible chargers is worth spending a few quid on a cable.

Besides, I can and will sell it when and if I don't need it any more.

ei9go

liamog wrote: »

22kW AC doesn't really make sense in an Irish context, manufacturers are installing 3 phase charging for the continent where it's more common to have triple phase at home.


Replace all the 22kW AC Points with 24kW DC chargers instead, same effect (and same grid requirement).

Add chargers. Don't remove anything that's working just because your car may not use it to it's maximum.

liamog

ei9go wrote: »

Add chargers. Don't remove anything that's working just because your car may not use it to it's maximum.

Not suggesting they be removed, but as they come up for replacement, instead of updating the model, replace it with a DC charger, the only people affected will be pre 2019 Zoe's

The thing is the AC chargers are cheaper than the DC chargers and can charge 2 cars at once, the DC can't.

DC is overkill for destination charging where people have the potential to stay many hours, this is after all the idea of both charging and parking. You could argue that someone should move once charged but this would be a pain in the ass if you had business to do in town, were having a meal, at the cinema etc, it's not always possible to get back to the car.

AC has a lot of benefits even charging at 6-7 Kw. Obviously the idea would be have a bank of 22 Kw DC chargers in the likes of shopping centres and in car parks but I'm not sure this is possible yet.

Even if you have 8-10 DC chargers they might have to implement some kind of load balancing like Tesla do.

I'm sure more powerful AC chargers will get cheaper and cheaper, DC too but it will always be a lot cheaper to provide the power than the charger for the ESB.

There should be a law that every garage must provide EV charging like recently introduced in the U.K, this week I think. There's no push from Government here to speed up the installation of charge points or make a law that it's seen as essential infrastructure which must be provided.

liamog

liamog wrote: »

Triple l.

What ?

PixelTrawler

Spotted two chargers at Castleknock Hotel yesterday. Had esb logos on them.
No idea what type. Parking spots were nicely sectioned off and clearly painted.

unkel

Probably the standard slow AC destination chargers, 7.2kW. Are you absolutely sure it had ESB logos on them?

The last place in the world the ESB should be spending tax payers money on new chargers is for destination chargers for hotels

JackieChan

Lidl Fortunestown will have charging points from 30th August.

Easygo charging (easygo.ie) are doing the install. Anyone know anything about them?

jhegarty

unkel wrote: »

Probably the standard slow AC destination chargers, 7.2kW. Are you absolutely sure it had ESB logos on them?

The last place in the world the ESB should be spending tax payers money on new chargers is for destination chargers for hotels

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3665361,-6.3900206,3a,81.7y,189.19h,82.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPcKDl_te5cTtqpjlNQesdg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

cros13

PixelTrawler wrote: »

Spotted two chargers at Castleknock Hotel yesterday. Had esb logos on them.
No idea what type. Parking spots were nicely sectioned off and clearly painted.

They've been there for years and are part of ESB's network which would exclude them from this thread (which is for listing charging locations outside ESB's network)

hatrack

Anyone know what the story is with the eCars charge point on Church Avenue in Rathmines? Never noticed it before today and it’s not on any maps. Doesn’t look newly installed so must have been there a while.

jprboy

hatrack wrote: »

Anyone know what the story is with the eCars charge point on Church Avenue in Rathmines? Never noticed it before today and it’s not on any maps. Doesn’t look newly installed so must have been there a while.

One of the comments under this Journal.ie article from July 2014 indicates that charge point was there then:

http://www.thejournal.ie/e-car-charging-points-1597734-Jul2014/

And this comment on OpenCharge Map from May 2014 suggests a lot of icing there:

https://openchargemap.org/site/poi/details/14936

It was probably decommissioned.

PixelTrawler

Anyone know what the story is with Avoca Dunboyne?

There are two parking spaces in e-cars branding - the green tarmac with e-cars in white. Spotted two petrol cars parked in them. Walked over for a look. No chargers...

No sign of any works going on at all with them.

PixelTrawler

cros13 wrote: »

They've been there for years and are part of ESB's network which would exclude them from this thread (which is for listing charging locations outside ESB's network)

You are right, they are on the map. Didnt spot it first time. Map says to call into reception to activate them. They are just 3.6kw chargers

n97 mini

unkel wrote: »

Probably the standard slow AC destination chargers, 7.2kW. Are you absolutely sure it had ESB logos on them?

The last place in the world the ESB should be spending tax payers money on new chargers is for destination chargers for hotels

I don't think they do. I think whoever installed them (NMD?) put ESB stickers on them. The one at the Bush Hotel in Carrick-on-Shannon has the same sticker. It didn't work when I tried it, so I phoned the number on the sticker. Chap in ecars said it's nothing to do with them.

unkel

Why the hell would NMD or whatever installer put ESB stickers on these chargers? Makes no sense at all

BigAl81

Just discovered 4 double charging stations in Blanchardstown Corporate Park in Ballycoolin.

They charge for use and have the website evcharge.online on them. I don't see them on the eCars app and had no idea there was pay to charge stations in Ireland!?

marklazarcovic

Two Tesla chargers at back of McHugh's pub/restaurant on tuam road galway,seen this morning

jprboy

marklazarcovic wrote: »

Two Tesla chargers at back of McHugh's pub/restaurant on tuam road galway,seen this morning

The eCars site doesn't show any of the Tesla chargers.

However, they are showing on ZapMap since mid July:

https://www.zap-map.com/live/

cros13

marklazarcovic wrote: »

Two Tesla chargers at back of McHugh's pub/restaurant on tuam road galway,seen this morning

It's worth saying for non-Tesla owners should be wary of relying on Tesla destination chargers.
They have two modes that can be switched by a DIP switch internally within the unit, One setting allows Tesla vehicles only to charge and one setting allows all to charge.
If Tesla is paying for the destination chargers they're usually shipped set to the Tesla-only setting.

kuro68k

cros13 wrote: »

It's worth saying for non-Tesla owners should be wary of relying on Tesla destination chargers.
They have two modes that can be switched by a DIP switch internally within the unit, One setting allows Tesla vehicles only to charge and one setting allows all to charge.
If Tesla is paying for the destination chargers they're usually shipped set to the Tesla-only setting.

So... Bring a screwdriver.