Wilder Vs Ortiz

The man in red and black · 18-09-2017 9:28pm #1

Just announced for November. Will be interesting to see what Ortiz is capable of. It might be a bit too late for him though? Says in the article that Stiverne was the mandatory for the WBC belt. How could he be when he hasn't fought since 2015? Seems strange even with the Povetkin drugs testing cancelling of fight.

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/11042633/deontay-wilders-defence-against-luis-ortiz-confirmed-for-november-4

Morrison J · 18-09-2017 10:02pm

Like Ortiz big time in this. If he has anywhere near the ability left that he showed against Jennings he has way too much for Wilder.

I can't believe Wilder is risking the AJ payday taking this fight.

hbhook · 20-09-2017 1:08pm

I can't remember seeing Ortiz's last fight but I hope his performance against Scott was a motivational thing. I got my local to put that one on...yikes.

nacho libre · 21-09-2017 5:30pm

I will be very surprised if Wilder wins this.

walshb · 21-09-2017 8:26pm

nacho libre wrote: »

I will be very surprised if Wilder wins this.

I won't.. I reckon he wins well.

nacho libre · 22-09-2017 4:10pm

walshb wrote: »

I won't.. I reckon he wins well.

He has a punchers chance, but against a semi decent opponent, which Ortiz is, he won't get to land it.

selectamatic · 22-09-2017 4:56pm

If this was a few years ago I'd be leaning to an Ortiz win but now I'm not so sure. Ortiz hasn't looked great the last while and wilder has a habit of sinking to his opponents level and just doing enough to get the win, which in his case is windmilling in bombs. This in turn fuels the perception that he's a one trick pony.

In my opinion when he has to box he can and he can deliver his punches in a more stylish fashion. It's just more often than not he doesn't have to.

Personally I'd like a wilder ko victory to set up the Joshua fight which is exactly what's best for the HW division.

I reckon this is a close fight though and a good case can be made for either man.

nacho libre · 22-09-2017 7:30pm

selectamatic wrote: »

If this was a few years ago I'd be leaning to an Ortiz win but now I'm not so sure. Ortiz hasn't looked great the last while and wilder has a habit of sinking to his opponents level and just doing enough to get the win, which in his case is windmilling in bombs. This in turn fuels the perception that he's a one trick pony.

In my opinion when he has to box he can and he can deliver his punches in a more stylish fashion. It's just more often than not he doesn't have to.

.

He has struggled against ordinary opposition, it's his power that has often got him out of trouble. Against a decent opponent it's unlikely his power will be the deciding factor. With this in mind, I have seen nothing to suggest he can box at all. He is very crude. These shortcomings will be exposed against top opposition.

If Ortiz is motivated he should win this. In his last couple of fights he didn't seem interested at all for whatever reason.

walshb · 29-09-2017 5:57am

Ortiz rumoured to have tested positive for banned substance.

Fake news, maybe?

Burial. · 29-09-2017 8:08am

Seems legit:
https://twitter.com/wbcmoro/status/913623837081776128

Wilder did say something about worry about not getting done for PEDs again.... Damn shame I was really looking forward to this.

Mantis Toboggan · 29-09-2017 8:11am

Balls, that's unlucky on Wilder yet again.

Sebastian Dangerfield · 29-09-2017 8:38am

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Balls, that's unlucky on Wilder yet again.

Yeah, he gets accused of only taking soft defences but he's signed up for arguably the two toughest defences available to him, and both have tested positive.

Stiverne will probably get promoted back to the main event now, in a fight no one has any interest in seeing.

Wilder Vs Ortiz

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