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High Speed internet cafe or business hub?

  • 18-09-2017 9:16pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭


    I have 1megabit upload speed here and I need to upload approx 700GB of Data and this would take around one month to upload presuming no timeouts etc. also I couldn't use the internet during that time.

    I tried to upload from a business centre already but was only getting 40mb upload speed despite their promised gigabit connectivity, that was a total waste of time and money.

    I run a business in the IT field and the broadband situation in Ireland has effectively killed our expansion plans here. Colleges and Universities are about the only places I can think of where I could walk in, drink a coffee or three and upload my data to the cloud and go home. As I'm not a student and as my grey hair will testify it has been a while since I was.

    Any ideas or solutions?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Can you trade CPU time for upload time? When things are that large spending 2hrs compressing can save 8-50hrs uploading. If its video look into HEVC, if its CAD/Other this may not be possible.


    3rd Levels on HEANET are a good option. Over the last year they've gone from 10Gb at core sites only to 10Gb at many of the colleges. Its wayyyyyy more than is currently used so you can easily get 900Mb upload if you pick the right switch. Some campuses don't secure/authenticate ports at all......


    I heard a guy interviewed last week running a business hub claiming great speeds but not sure where/who he was. My podcast app doesnt throw it back up with a search.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    Just send a usb stick in post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,514 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    srsly78 wrote: »
    Just send a usb stick in post.

    That would be some USB stick!

    Anyway they want to upload to the cloud, can't exactly post it to Amazon AWS.

    Where are you located OP?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    Not really, seeing as you can get 4TB ones.

    As ED E already said: compress the **** out of it. Use 7zip with max compression. Do not use normal zip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    Doltanian wrote: »
    I run a business in the IT field and the broadband situation in Ireland has effectively killed our expansion plans here.

    That's bull - if that's the field you are in you simply locate in an area that has high speed braodband capability and its not just the manincities that have it.


    Plenty of FTTH areas now http://fibrerollout.ie/first-rural-ftth-locations-announced/

    But this "broadband has killed my expansion lark" is an excuse to whine.

    I'm in retail - I'd love to open a store in my local village but the population is not there so the store is in large population centres where the customers are.


    For your download, check with friends if any have FTTH or go to admon desk of local college and ask them if you can utilise their connection.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,514 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    srsly78 wrote: »
    Not really, seeing as you can get 4TB ones.

    I haven't seen 1 TB for less than €500 (professional ones anyway, maybe they've come down since I've last looked) and they'd be better off couriering their server for that kind of price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    So burn it to loads of DVDs, post a hard disk - doesn't matter. I am betting the OPs data is really inefficiently stored as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    We'd need more info about what the 700G is made up of and where it's being uploaded to...

    there's a good chance there's a much better way of doing whatever this is related to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    srsly78 wrote: »
    Just send a usb stick in post.
    TheChizler wrote: »
    I haven't seen 1 TB for less than €500 (professional ones anyway, maybe they've come down since I've last looked) and they'd be better off couriering their server for that kind of price.
    srsly78 wrote: »
    So burn it to loads of DVDs, post a hard disk - doesn't matter. I am betting the OPs data is really inefficiently stored as well.

    You just post a regular HDD. Amazon offer it.
    https://www.labnol.org/internet/offsite-backup-from-amazon/8729/


    Thats a very limited use case though. Have to agree that BB isnt how you describe it. Every market town and greater has VDSL which gives most 10-20Mb up. That kills the US average which is like 2-5Mb. Tech capital of the world. If I wanted to run a surf school I wouldnt do it in tullamore. Same goes for bandwidth heavy applications, locate to where its viable. Or pay for your own BIP circuit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,514 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    ED E wrote: »
    You just post a regular HDD. Amazon offer it.
    https://www.labnol.org/internet/offsite-backup-from-amazon/8729/

    I stand entirely corrected! :D


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Doltanian


    Would anyone else here know of anywhere that I could go, pay whatever fee would be required and be able to get connectivity and upload the required data myself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    It would help if you pointed to what area you're in. Somebody knowing one in Donegal is no use to a person in Cork.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Doltanian


    ED E wrote: »
    It would help if you pointed to what area you're in. Somebody knowing one in Donegal is no use to a person in Cork.

    I live in Kerry but I'd go as far as Dublin, Galway etc. as if I found somewhere with good gigabit connectivity it would just take a short while to get data uploaded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭jbkenn


    Doltanian wrote: »
    I live in Kerry but I'd go as far as Dublin, Galway etc. as if I found somewhere with good gigabit connectivity it would just take a short while to get data uploaded.
    Would you haul your ar$e over to Skibereen?
    https://www.ludgate.ie/
    They might be able to help you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭iioklo


    Doltanian wrote: »
    it would just take a short while to get data uploaded.
    Remember Upload speed's are just 20% of Download speed, so a 1000mb/s connection will have 200mb/s upload, which is equivalent to 25MB of your data per second, I calculate that to upload 750GB will take a minimum of 8.3 hours (750,000MB / 25MB/s = 30000 seconds = 500 minutes = 8.33 hours) this is with a perfect link to server and getting constant speed over the 8 hours, however its unlikely you will achieve this and could take 12 or more hour's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    iioklo wrote: »
    Remember Upload speed's are just 20% of Download speed, so a 1000mb/s connection will have 200mb/s upload, which is equivalent to 25MB of your data per second, I calculate that to upload 750GB will take a minimum of 8.3 hours (750,000MB / 25MB/s = 30000 seconds = 500 minutes = 8.33 hours) this is with a perfect link to server and getting constant speed over the 8 hours, however its unlikely you will achieve this and could take 12 or more hour's.

    no..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,514 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    You might be thinking of DSL there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭iioklo


    no..

    If I've made a mistake, please explain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    Not all connections are asymmetric. It's common for home users, but different for businesses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    iioklo wrote: »
    If I've made a mistake, please explain.

    The bit with 20% is wrong


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭iioklo


    The bit with 20% is wrong

    Ah, Ok.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Can you seed it to a data centre somewhere and use their pipe to upload it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭TomCo


    Amazon Snowball might be a good bet.

    https://aws.amazon.com/snowball/


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