Guardianship

Justice1980

Hi, this is my first post. I would like some advice please. It is for a friend of mine.
The scenario is an in law from another country sent her daughter (14) over to live with her five months ago without discussing it with my friend, she was basically not given a choice. My friend was told it would only be for a short while as her sister in law was applying for citizanship based on an Irish born child. (The child is Irish). The girls mother came to visit last week and applied for citizanship and then left.

My friend has a very soft heart and people take advantage of that, she can not say no to anyone. My friends sister in law asked my friend if she would get her name on a household bill as she would like to open a bank account so she could send money for her daughter. ( she used the bank statement as proof of address for justice and has not sent money) My friend was asked to lie if anyone ever asked to say that her sister in law lived with her.

My friend loves her niece and is concerned for her welfare even though the girl is very happy at the moment. She is afraid that the child is being used as a gate way to Ireland for her mother. Her niece is under the hope that her mother will return to her.

I just think they are using her as a loop hole to get into the country and I think it is very selfish and immature to use the child like that.

My friend would like to apply as a guardian but is afraid that it will ruin their chances on citizanship as they have already applied. She works and claims fis and as she is financially supporting the child she should be entitled to claim for her. She was advised that she would have to claim child benefit first. When she discussed it with the mother she disapproved saying it would interfere with her citizanship, as I said before she has not received a single cent to support the child. She does not want her niece to be separated from her mother.

My questions are would my friend get into trouble for what she has done and what is knows about the mother. She was conned into thinking that she was getting her name on a bill so the mother could open a bank account but instead used it as proof of address. Should she report it to justice?

What should my friend do in the best interests of the child, should she apply for guardianship? As she thinks if citizanship doesn't work out for the mother, that she will leave the child in her care. My friend is worried that if she applies for guardianship that it will ruin the mothers chances of being reunited with her daughter.

The mother of the child is very secretive and does not discuss much with my friend.

I would like some advice so I can go back and have a chat with her. Does anyone know what she can do. Thanks in advance

Peregrinus

Having sent your child to live in Ireland is not an effective route to citizenship.

I admit I find it difficult to follow your story. Everyone in it is female and you keep using the word "she" in a context where it is difficult to know who it refers to. I think if you want helpful advice you're going to have to set out the facts more clearly.

Also, you need to be a bit clearer as to what it is your friend wants advice about.

Is she concerned for the welfare/happiness of the girl she is caring for?

Is she concerned to prevent what she fears may be a fraudulent application for citizenship?

These are two very different things.

Victor

Justice1980 wrote: »

The girls mother came to visit last week and applied for citizanship and left. It's my understanding that you have to reside in Ireland to qualify. The thing is my friend is afraid that it's a scam and she will somehow get into trouble as her sister in law conned her into getting her name on a bill a few months ago. She said it was to open a bank account to send money to her daughter but she hasn't sent a single cent to support her daughter. She used It as proof of address for the dept of justice.

The problem with such an approach is that Immigration will see that there are no transactions in Ireland on the account - it wouldn't be very good evidence of living here.

Justice1980

I am sorry Peregrinus it is my first post and I wrote it wrong.
I have tried fix it as best as I could. Thank you for pointing that out to me.

Peregrinus wrote: »

Having sent your child to live in Ireland is not an effective route to citizenship.

I admit I find it difficult to follow your story. Everyone in it is female and you keep using the word "she" in a context where it is difficult to know who it refers to. I think if you want helpful advice you're going to have to set out the facts more clearly.

Also, you need to be a bit clearer as to what it is your friend wants advice about.

Is she concerned for the welfare/happiness of the girl she is caring for?

Is she concerned to prevent what she fears may be a fraudulent application for citizenship?

These are two very different things.

Justice1980

Thank you for your reply,
I was thinking the same

Victor wrote: »

The problem with such an approach is that Immigration will see that there are no transactions in Ireland on the account - it wouldn't be very good evidence of living here.