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Upgrade Headache

  • 16-09-2017 9:14am
    #1
    Chavways
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭


    Hi All,

    I see a lot of older threads with people asking similar questions but nothing in the last 3 years so going to put my own situation out there.

    I own a Canon 700d and recently bought a 16-35 f/4L. I love taking landscape photos, sunsets, pretty much anything in the outdoors with a wide angle. I only take photos as a hobby and have gotten more interested in this in the last 3-4 months but still have a long way to go (Instagram).

    I feel like I am getting to the point where I'm outgrowing the 700D. It's low light performance at ISO800 and above is crap (as has been well documented elsewhere) and I feel like I want something even wider for landscapes with a full frame camera. I also own an EF-S 55-250 so I would have to replace this also. My budget would be about 1200-1400 euro max for a new body so the original 6D is probably my only Canon option but I know it is old. I've read it has very good low light performance.

    The other option I'm looking at is a Sony A7ii. I see these becoming more popular and with in built IS, it would be a very good option if I was to buy fast lenses in the future as I wouldn't have to pay through the teeth if I wanted an IS version. I would like to keep my 16-35 f/4 and just get an adapter to use with the Sony. Anyone any good or bad experiences with this?

    Basically, I'm torn. I think I want to upgrade but I don't know what I want. Not even sure if I should just get more lenses but the 16-35 has pretty much been stuck to my camera since I got it so I think I'm OK in that department for now. Thanks in advance.


Comments

  • #2
    Pete67
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    How about a second hand 5Dmkii? You should be able to find a decent one within your budget. It's still a superb body and would be ideal for landscape work with the 16-35 f4.


  • #3
    Chavways
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭Chavways


    Pete67 wrote: »
    How about a second hand 5Dmkii? You should be able to find a decent one within your budget. It's still a superb body and would be ideal for landscape work with the 16-35 f4.

    Never really considered it to be honest due to the fact that it's so old! But yeah I guess for landscape work it would be a good choice. I won't be doing a huge amount of video with this camera so that's not a requirement.

    Would there be any justification in saving up more for a 5dm3? The price is still waaaay outside my budget and I don't think I'd be too worried about the upgrades it has on top of the m2.


  • #4
    Pete67
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    Personally I don't believe the Mk3 is a huge upgrade over the Mk2, and I have one of each. the Mk3 has slightly higher frame resolution, and a more sophisticated AF system, but in terms of image quality and low light performance there would not be a lot in it.


  • #5
    Wailin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,440 ✭✭✭Wailin


    Pete67 wrote: »
    How about a second hand 5Dmkii? You should be able to find a decent one within your budget. It's still a superb body and would be ideal for landscape work with the 16-35 f4.

    He'd be better off with a second hand 6D. Better sensor and processor. Supposedly even better lowlight capabilities than the 5D mk iii, never mind mk ii.

    Op i had the 6d after upgrading from an 1100D and it's a great camera. Served me well for 3 yrs before upgrading to 5D mk iv. Perfect for landscape. Maybe not so good for sport/action with the low number of focus points. Then I would go for a used 5D mk iii.

    I also have the 16-35mm f4 and worked really well with the 6D.


  • #6
    Chavways
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    Wailin wrote: »
    He'd be better off with a second hand 6D. Better sensor and processor. Supposedly even better lowlight capabilities than the 5D mk iii, never mind mk ii.

    Op i had the 6d after upgrading from an 1100D and it's a great camera. Served me well for 3 yrs before upgrading to 5D mk iv. Perfect for landscape. Maybe not so good for sport/action with the low number of focus points. Then I would go for a used 5D mk iii.

    I also have the 16-35mm f4 and worked really well with the 6D.

    Yeah I think the 6D is the way to go. Even over the last few days trying to get photos at dusk, the low light capabilities of the 700d have been very limiting. I'll hold out until Black Friday/Cyber Monday and see if I can get a new 6d for cheap but if not, I think I'll be going for a used one.


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  • #7
    wersal gummage
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    I'd imagined there's a market for a nice Canon L lense, especially if it is the recently launched 16-35. You should be probably get back a lot of what you paid for it if you sell. With only one expensive lense you could still jump ship to Sony.

    Are you shooting landscapes at 800+ iso??


  • #8
    Chavways
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    wersal gummage wrote: »
    I'd imagined there's a market for a nice Canon L lense, especially if it is the recently launched 16-35. You should be probably get back a lot of what you paid for it if you sell. With only one expensive lense you could still jump ship to Sony.

    Are you shooting landscapes at 800+ iso??

    Yeah it's the recent 16-35 f/4. I hear that Sony's lens range isn't as expansive as Canons though. Have no experience with using adapters or what their effects are on IQ. Having looked at Sonys a bit, it looks like the A7 or A7ii would be my best bet I think if I was to change.

    Once in a while I would like to use ISO800 or more but with the 700d, I get a lot of grain and noise from ISO800 or more.I know landscapes should typically be done with a lower ISO but sometimes it's necessary if I'm trying to keep my exposure and aperture fixed for whatever reason.


  • #9
    Wailin
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    Brand new 6D here for 925 euro: https://www.e-infin.com/eu/item/1253/canon_eos_6d_digital_slr_camera_full_frame_body_only_wifi_and_gps_enabled_(retail_box)

    Around the same price you would get a used one here if you're lucky.


  • #10
    Chavways
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭Chavways


    Wailin wrote: »
    Brand new 6D here for 925 euro: https://www.e-infin.com/eu/item/1253/canon_eos_6d_digital_slr_camera_full_frame_body_only_wifi_and_gps_enabled_(retail_box)

    Around the same price you would get a used one here if you're lucky.

    Yeah would have been looking at buying from them or eglobal anyway to be honest!


  • #11
    Chavways
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭Chavways


    Looks like the A7ii is out as an option because of moire when recording video which I think I would be doing more of with a better camera. So I think I'm down to the 6D or an A7R.

    Does anyone have experience with using adapters for Canon EF lenses to Sony E mount? I know metabones is probably the best but I'd rather not pay the 400 euro to get a mount and wondering if a cheap one would suffice. Thanks.


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