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Experiences or stories about neutering

  • 14-09-2017 9:11am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭


    I'm thinking of getting my dog neutered to stop the stress she feels when she cannot go out as much....but it seems there are a few rare cases where it has a negative effect on the dog....anybody got any experience in this?
    thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭kathleen37


    I couldn't get either of my two rescue dachshunds neutered as both had been breeder dogs that had had multiple c sections, and although I tried 3 different vets, none were prepared to do the op on either dog due to excess scarring.

    Both girls developed extensive mammary tumours later in life. It was beyond horrible. They both ended up getting full, double sided mams off. Rotten for both of them.

    If I ever get another pup, I'll definitely, definitely be getting her neutered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭euser1984


    kathleen37 wrote: »
    I couldn't get either of my two rescue dachshunds neutered as both had been breeder dogs that had had multiple c sections, and although I tried 3 different vets, none were prepared to do the op on either dog due to excess scarring.

    Both girls developed extensive mammary tumours later in life. It was beyond horrible. They both ended up getting full, double sided mams off. Rotten for both of them.

    If I ever get another pup, I'll definitely, definitely be getting her neutered.

    alright then, but the whole neutering process is really inhumane.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,062 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    euser1984 wrote: »
    alright then, but the whole neutering process is really inhumane.....

    Why are you considering it then if it's so terrible? People have different reasons to spay/neuter or not - it's all about making an informed decision on what works best for your dog and ultimately who benefits from your choice - your conscience or your dog.


    My girl was spayed once she had one heat and was fully grown - I would have gone 2 heats to let her grow but the first one wasn't until she was 13months so worked out perfectly lol! She was groggy that evening and fine again the next morning. Would I spay a fully grown female again that I had no intention of breeding after their first heat and accept the minuscule risk of mammary cancer - you bet it.


    My boy was neutered too early and has joint and behavioural issues - would I neuter a boy again... no way unless their was behavioural/medical issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,975 ✭✭✭Cherry Blossom


    If you feel traditional spaying is too tough on the dog you could always go for a keyhole spay. Only a few vets do it. The toughest part for my terrier was the anesthetic. She was back to herself the next day. My boy had no issues at all with his op and went bouncing out of the vets as if he'd just been for a quick check up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,062 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    When I went to collect Lucy I'd asked for her hips etc to be x-rayed too for ref in the future if we need them... so vet took me into the back room as the examination rooms were in use which also has the bigger of their kennels/crates under the worktop/counter.. She was going through the X-rays with me (all fine) for a good few mins and Lucy asleep in the crate underneath without me realising!! And then she had to be asked if she was getting out! :pac: This was all new to me because I normally have Bailey's trademark separation barking (3 barks pause and repeat * 1 billion) from the nano-second I get into the vets!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭deadlybuzzman


    As a policy the rescue that we got our dog from neuters all dogs before adoption.
    Our dog was definitely younger than average for it and wasn't fully grown but thankfully she's had zero health problems


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    We neutered our rescue dog 6 months after we had her. She's 7/8.
    The rescue told us they thought she was neutered (can be quite hard to identify the scar nowadays apparently), a couple of days and she was back to herself. She was fine but sore straight away.

    The vets told us when to bring her in, 4-6 weeks after her season was the recommended timeframe I believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,611 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Google pyometra in dogs OP, far more inhumane than a controlled spay.

    I've spayed and neutered numerous dogs. Most recover very very quickly. One bitch took a few days to get over it, crying and very clingy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,975 ✭✭✭jimf


    pyometra can be lethal in bitches very commonly seen approx. up to 6 weeks after heat period but can occur at any time

    2 types open and closed with closed been by far the worst of them

    had more than my fair share over the years and you need to be vigilant to the signs excess drinking allways makes me wary


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,763 ✭✭✭Knine


    Most of my dogs are kept entire. I would never neuter a male dog again. Too many joint issues afterwards. I find entire dogs & bitches to have much better muscle tone, much nicer & healthier coats. I have plenty of dogs to compare.

    I don't like the way spaying or neutering affects coats. My spayed bitches tend to be much less tolerant of other dogs or puppies. I have this week had to separate my spayed bitch from the entire girls.

    No pyometra or other issues. There are pros and con's so it is important to hear both sides before making a choice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Every dog I've had has been neutered, and there's never been a problem.

    I think that the benefits in terms of stress on the dog, pyo, and cancers outweighs any issues with coat, which generally isn't that important for pet dogs anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,062 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Friend's sister's dog has spay incontinence. Friend actually had a nightmare herself with her girls wound - oozing, stitches coming out that ended up having to be stapled etc etc ...although that dog seems to catch every bug going around so not the heartiest dog compared to my two!


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    tk123 wrote: »
    Friend's sister's dog has spay incontinence. Friend actually had a nightmare herself with her girls wound - oozing, stitches coming out that ended up having to be stapled etc etc ...although that dog seems to catch every bug going around so not the heartiest dog compared to my two!

    Was she spayed young?

    Some might remember me talking about my mother's border collie pup here many months ago. She seemed to have some bladder issues for a while (although none now at all). As a rescue my mother agreed to spay her when she was old enough but after showing signs of bladder trouble our vet point blank refused to spay her until she is fully mature. Hes a wonderful vet and my mam was more than happy to wait as she knows it's better for their joints etc too.

    My girl was spayed young (before I got her). Id like to have seen what her coat would have been like had she not because she has the most beautiful coat. It's sooo soft and it glistens like she has glitter sprinkled on her. Every single person that meets her comments on it, without fail. Do you use conditioner on her?!?! Eh no, that's just how she is. In the vet recently a woman bent down to pet her and recoiled back in shock. I got a fright for a second until she said "my God, she's so soft!" Haha.

    Absolutely believe and agree that neuturing affects their coats, don't anyone think I donf. Just saying that Khalis, fortunately, is glorious regardless. (I'm not half gushing over my own dog :D )

    For me, with neutering, I have two main concerns.

    If you don't spay or neuture will you genuinely and in all honesty be completely careful and responsible with your dog? Will you keep her in during heat, walk her on lead, keep her away from dogs. Is your garden 100% secure or is she gonna sneak out or some dog sneak in? If it's multi dog household do you have a plan for keeping everyone that needs to be separate, separate?

    My other concern is nervousness. My terrier had to be neutured. He's a rescue and that is, imo, the correct way to have it. Otherwise those rescues are fighting even more of a losing battle with unwanted pups than they already are. However,my guy is reactive and this stems purely from fear. My vet, same man who I mentioned earlier, warned me that it may well make him worse. He as good as told me it would. He knows his stuff and it certainly did make hiros nervousness worse. At the time I felt I had to. On reflection I wish I'd held back and had a chat with the rescue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Dubl07


    I travelled to Meath from South Dublin to get an ovary-sparing spay done for my dog. It removes the womb and cervix but leaves the ovaries. As mammary tumours are easier to spot than osteosarcomas, I thought it the best bet for our circumstances. I was very wary of an unwanted litter or pyo but I thought it best she should keep her hormones.

    She was a bit sore that day and the following day, but the two tiny holes with a couple of stitches each healed really fast. She still gets a bit hormonal every six months or so but other than being a bit clingy and soft-toy orientated there are no other issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,062 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Was she spayed young?

    Yeah pretty sure she was!! Bailey is very anxious and stressey so even without the joint issues he could have done with the hormones and stayed intact!


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    tk123 wrote: »
    Yeah pretty sure she was!! Bailey is very anxious and stressey so even without the joint issues he could have done with the hormones and stayed intact!

    Yeah I really regret it.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Hi OP, not sure if your dog is male or female. In terms of the surgery, it's very straightforward for males and more complex for females.

    I had my own male dog neutered about 2 months ago. Unfortunately there were behaviour reasons behind it and he vet, who I must point out does not push neutering, recommended it.

    I did a lot of research on the topic before making a decision. (By research I don't mean google!) Note my research focused on male dogs.

    In summary of my findings:

    It's not cruel to do it. Simply put, a dog has no idea it has happened and doesn't miss his balls.

    The dog's personality doesn't change. In most cases dogs will be less hyper. But he is still the same dog.

    Dog metabolism decreases. Don't overfeed.

    The dogs no longer experiences pent up sexual frustration. Imagine if you were a virgin and couldn't masturbate!

    There are mixed views on when a dog should be neutered. What I personally took from my research was to wait till a male dog was no longer a pup to ensure he develops without any issues. My dog got it done though just after he turned 3.

    My dog is a rescue and still suffers anxiety issues. For any dogs who are similar talk to your vet about surgery options. Not all procedures need to involve stitches. Dissolvable stitches can be used or even a special glue.

    Approx 1 in 20 dogs will see behaviour issues post surgery.

    OP, I too felt it was humane but having researched it extensively I'm a lot more comfortable with it. I personally would not be neutering a dog until he's no longer a pup.

    Btw my dog is totally fine. Still himself but the negative behaviours prompting the neutering have dramatically decreased.


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