NCT / selling query

jrar

OK, looking for some input please

My old 14-year car which I've had from new was due NCT at the end of Aug and tax runs out end of Sept. so I decided a few months back to get something much newer and either trade it in or sell it privately

There's 230K miles on it, but it's basically a 1.9 diesel which has been serviced every 10K and is still running perfectly well. I was still getting 600+ miles from a full 62 litre tank so still pretty frugal.

Amount offered as trade-in was laughable (one quote of €100) so I decided to hang on to it and sell it privately.

Dilemma now is that NCT has expired so if I stick it up on one of the sales sites (Carzone etc.), will that seriously put potential buyers off ? Last year, only "fail" at the NCT was an advisory on a foggy lens on the RH headlight which I treated and passed the re-test no problem.

Should I book an NCT whilst the tax is still valid and get a new cert (will require getting insurance cover for the day), or given that the car is only realistically worth €300-€400, would it make that much of a difference overall ? (tax is still €673 per annum !)

If you were in the market for a 14 yo daily driver with service history, would the price be everything or would you pay "more" for one with high mileage admittedly but that had a new NCT cert. for the year ahead ??

wonski

I don't want to be harsh, but it isn't even worth 100 euro without NCT.

elperello

I'd stick it in for the test if you think there is a good chance of passing.

Guy:Incognito

What is it?

Vic_08

Without knowing what the car is, it is unlikely that you will sell it without an NCT.

If garages taking a trade-in are not willing to pretend to you that it is worth something then you won't get a private buyer to pay money for it either.

There is a small market for a 14 year old car in a high tax bracket and the sort of people who are in the market will just skip past any car advertised without an NCT.

The amount of ads on scumdeal with phrases like "will fly through NCT" is amusing, if it'll fly through then why haven't you done it.

Del2005

jrar wrote: »

OK, looking for some input please

My old 14-year car which I've had from new was due NCT at the end of Aug and tax runs out end of Sept. so I decided a few months back to get something much newer and either trade it in or sell it privately

There's 230K miles on it, but it's basically a 1.9 diesel which has been serviced every 10K and is still running perfectly well. I was still getting 600+ miles from a full 62 litre tank so still pretty frugal.

Amount offered as trade-in was laughable (one quote of €100) so I decided to hang on to it and sell it privately.

Dilemma now is that NCT has expired so if I stick it up on one of the sales sites (Carzone etc.), will that seriously put potential buyers off ? Last year, only "fail" at the NCT was an advisory on a foggy lens on the RH headlight which I treated and passed the re-test no problem.

Should I book an NCT whilst the tax is still valid and get a new cert (will require getting insurance cover for the day), or given that the car is only realistically worth €300-€400, would it make that much of a difference overall ? (tax is still €673 per annum !)

If you were in the market for a 14 yo daily driver with service history, would the price be everything or would you pay "more" for one with high mileage admittedly but that had a new NCT cert. for the year ahead ??

You refused trade in offers of more than €100 on a car that you think is only worth €300. How much do you think that they should have offered?

To get an NCT is going to cost €100 when you ad up the cost of the test and getting there and back. The NCT won't ad any value but it'll make the car easier to sell, the lack of any tax will make it hard to sell.

Selling a car at that price point attracts a lot of unscrupulous people and time wasters, are you willing to deal with all that for a few hundred Euro? Maybe bring it to a authorised end of life facility.

ELM327

From the fuel tank capacity and 1.9 diesel I'm guessing it's a VW/VAG?

Cee-Jay-Cee

Can you avail of any scrappage schemes?

Seth Brundle

Del2005 wrote: »

You refused trade in offers of more than €100 on a car that you think is only worth €300. How much do you think that they should have offered?

You possibly could get much more off when buying just with cash.

biko

jrar wrote: »

If you were in the market for a 14 yo daily driver with service history, would the price be everything or would you pay "more" for one with high mileage admittedly but that had a new NCT cert. for the year ahead ??

I would probably not even consider buying a car without NCT.

Gravelly

Del2005 wrote: »

You refused trade in offers of more than €100 on a car that you think is only worth €300. How much do you think that they should have offered?

To get an NCT is going to cost €100 when you ad up the cost of the test and getting there and back. The NCT won't ad any value but it'll make the car easier to sell, the lack of any tax will make it hard to sell.

Selling a car at that price point attracts a lot of unscrupulous people and time wasters, are you willing to deal with all that for a few hundred Euro? Maybe bring it to a authorised end of life facility.

That's if it passes first time, something the OP seems to be assuming. And we all know what assume does. I'd have taken the €100 trade in and been glad of it.

Kenny Logins

I recently bought a 15 year old high(ish) mileage diesel stop-gap car. Wasn't bothered about mileage or paintwork, just condition, service history, and NCT.

If it is (as I suspect) a VW/Audi Tdi, I would definitely get it tested and advertise it. These still sell for bit more than you mentioned.

If it's a French car, take the €100 and buy lottery tickets. :pac:

ELM327

Kenny Logins wrote: »

I recently bought a 15 year old high(ish) mileage diesel stop-gap car. Wasn't bothered about mileage or paintwork, just condition, service history, and NCT.

If it is (as I suspect) a VW/Audi Tdi, I would definitely get it tested and advertise it. These still sell for bit more than you mentioned.

If it's a French car, take the €100 and buy lottery tickets. :pac:

+1
You'll always sell a diesel VW in Ireland.

jrar

OK, just to clarify - it's a Passat which truly is in good nick. I'd rather give it away than see it scrapped as it has plenty of life left in it courtesy of being well maintained.  It's certainly "worth" more than €100 which is why I turned that offer down at trade-in time.  I have now booked an NCT for it and will see what result that brings.  If they deem it to need work that would not be cost-effective, then yes, I'll be forced to go down the end-of-life path as I cannot see anyone taking on those costs and also shelling out for the car itself to begin with.

jrar

Had the NCT recently and as expected there are some items to address - have asked my usual mechanic to price them but have yet to get a full cost for same

In the meantime, I've now sold the car for cash, having revealed the fail sheet and priced it accordingly. The new owner plans to get the work done and has asked me to book the re-test when they have it ready to go

I'm now sending off the VRC for change of ownership so will they not have a problem if they rock up with a VRC in a different name for the test ? Or does it not matter provided the new owner shows driving licence ID and pays for the test ?

Yawns

Why not just get the new owner to book and pay for his own test?

If you book it online with your card, the NCT will try to charge to your card first on the day of test.

Atlantic Dawn

jrar wrote: »

I'm now sending off the VRC for change of ownership so will they not have a problem if they rock up with a VRC in a different name for the test ? Or does it not matter provided the new owner shows driving licence ID and pays for the test ?

Doesn't matter who's name is on the book and who shows up for the test. The cert will be given there and then so no need to have address updated. If the car fails the test with him bringing he can then ring them and rebook using his details as per the new VRC which he should have by then.

jrar

As previous poster noted, booking requires a card to be used so I've now sold the car and confirmed that the re-booking is up to him (I gave him the fail sheet so he has all of the details plus the booking ID to book a re-test.

Change of ownership details currently winging their way to Shannon

elperello

Well done for keeping the old bus on the road. There are too many serviceable cars getting the chop.

jrar

Well I fully hope the reason given by the buyer for purchasing the car is genuine, and that it doesn't end up being broken up for parts / recycling.

elperello

I know people who spent 1500 on mechanical repairs to an 04 Passat earlier this year. It was a sentiment thing and in no way economical but still great to see it soldiering on.