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Retention needed for works carried out prior to Listing?

  • 11-09-2017 6:47pm
    #1
    flashforward
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭


    Is retention required on a listed structure if the offending works were carried out prior to its listing?

    See example excerpt from the Building of Ireland appraisal:

    'Replacement uPVC windows with stone sills '


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  • #2
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,444 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    If the works were carried out prior to the building be listed, and the works complied with a previous planning permission, or, were carried out as an exempt development (...and complied with the requirements of same...), then, retention planning permission is not required after the building becomes listed.

    There are loads of houses in Dublin that are now listed and had PVC or aluminium windows in a past life (prior to listing).


  • #3
    Rabbo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Rabbo


    No, if the works were not contrary to the planning regulations that were applicable at the time then retention permission should not be necessary.


  • #4
    flashforward
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭flashforward


    Is there a period in which planning was not necessary? As in a extension to a listed property that was constructed 30+ or 50+ years ago?

    Does the same thing apply for things like garages in listed properties - there is no planning file associated so it is not possible to know exactly when a garage was built.


  • #5
    Victor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    flashforward wrote: »
    Is there a period in which planning was not necessary? As in a extension to a listed property that was constructed 30+ or 50+ years ago?
    Before 1964.

    In the last 10-15 certain small extensions are exempt, but that doesn't apply to listed buildings.
    Does the same thing apply for things like garages in listed properties - there is no planning file associated so it is not possible to know exactly when a garage was built.
    A reasonable estimate of age could be made.

    If a structure doesn't have planning permission and it is more than about 7 years old, enforcement is difficult. However, if you want a new planning permission, you will likely need to regularise the unauthorised structure first.


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