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Listed Building

  • 09-09-2017 6:07pm
    #1
    Listed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 ✭


    In the county where I live many people build log cabins close to their houses, without planning, and use existing septic tanks etc. The council turns a blind eye in that nobody has been asked to remove them.
    The house near which I am considering building is a listed building. The log cabin would be built in a field in front of and to the side of the house, separated from the house by a 20-yard garden and a 6-foot hedge. The cabin can be 50 to 100 yards from the house if needed.
    Would this be outside the curtilage of the house from the point of view of laws about listed buildings?


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  • #2
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Check the RPS.
    Then lodgeba section 5 application for a definitive answer from the council.


  • #3
    Listed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 ✭Listed


    Besides the house itself, the only structures mentioned in the RPS are a low wall and railings which form the boundary between the front garden and the field beyond. The question is whether this is a "field beyond" in the legal sense, in terms of the laws about listed buildings. 
    I'm looking at building the log cabin informally, without planning, so a section 5 application might not be a good move.


  • #4
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Listed wrote: »
    Besides the house itself, the only structures mentioned in the RPS are a low wall and railings which form the boundary between the front garden and the field beyond. The question is whether this is a "field beyond" in the legal sense, in terms of the laws about listed buildings. 
    I'm looking at building the log cabin informally, without planning, so a section 5 application might not be a good move.

    Well then, you won't get any advice on here on how to break the law in afraid.
    You can be pretty sure that all listed buildings are monitored, if not by the LA, then by the civic trust, An Taisce or similar.


  • #5
    Black_Ninja
    Closed Accounts Posts: 273 ✭✭Black_Ninja


    kceire wrote: »
    Check the RPS.
    Then lodgeba section 5 application for a definitive answer from the council.

    You mean a Section 57?

    And if that is what you mean, I think these can only be done by the owner of the protected structure.


  • #6
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Black_Ninja wrote: »
    You mean a Section 57?

    And if that is what you mean, I think these can only be done by the owner of the protected structure.

    Section 57 application is basically the same as a section 5 application asking the council if the proposed works require planning or not.

    Obviously the protected status of the building means it will be scrutinized in more detail.

    Anybody can lodge a Section 5, you can even lodge one asking if your neighbors extension requires planning or not. Not sure about the S57.


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