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Advice please on what is happening here **see pics**

  • 07-09-2017 10:20am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭


    Hi all I'm desperate for some advice here so if you can help thanks in advance.
    I had my hall replastered and painted last November and I'm having the problem showing in the pictures.
    I'm worried it is being caused by water but where it is coming from I can't see. Hopefully someone can advise me on the potential cause but also how to remedy it. It's kind of unsightly and annoys the f**k out of me after getting work done. Nowhere else is affected except in that corner.
    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭thejaguar


    Looks like water to me. You might have to at least take off the skirting boards to see if you can see or feel any damp.

    The other thing to consider is if you dry clothes around there a lot. They could be causing some moisture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭budhabob


    Out of curiousity how long between the plastering and the painting? And when did it start happening?

    it certainly looks like a lot of moisture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭J.R.


    what's at the other side of that wall - is it in the same condition?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭dok_golf


    Run your hand over it. If its dry, then it's salt rising to the surface ( plaster can "sweat" the same as skin. ) but there must be either water ingress somewhere thats driving the salt out, or an area with very little air circulation, hence condensation build up. You can buy plaster salt inhibitor and apply to the surface ( scrape and sand first). This will stop it reoccurring provided you sorted out the initial problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭simo28


    thejaguar wrote: »
    Looks like water to me. You might have to at least take off the skirting boards to see if you can see or feel any damp.

    The other thing to consider is if you dry clothes around there a lot. They could be causing some moisture.

    We don't dry clothes there at all


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭simo28


    budhabob wrote: »
    Out of curiousity how long between the plastering and the painting? And when did it start happening?

    it certainly looks like a lot of moisture.


    I can't be sure when it started tbh. There would of been 3/4 weels betwen the plastering and the painting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭simo28


    J.R. wrote: »
    what's at the other side of that wall - is it in the same condition?

    the other side is the external wall and all seems fine there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭simo28


    dok_golf wrote: »
    Run your hand over it. If its dry, then it's salt rising to the surface ( plaster can "sweat" the same as skin. ) but there must be either water ingress somewhere thats driving the salt out, or an area with very little air circulation, hence condensation build up. You can buy plaster salt inhibitor and apply to the surface ( scrape and sand first). This will stop it reoccurring provided you sorted out the initial problem

    one wall feels damp and the other dry??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭dok_golf


    Is the "fuzz" rough?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,501 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    simo28 wrote: »
    the other side is the external wall and all seems fine there.

    we had this on our external wall which was caused by a overflowing rain gutter.
    The wall on the outside looked perfectly fine and we only saw it when it was raining heavily.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭simo28


    dok_golf wrote: »
    Is the "fuzz" rough?


    In picture one it is soft and flaky

    in picture, yes its rough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭dok_golf


    The rough one is definitely saly, the other may be mold but you definitely have moisture ingress somewhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    How old is the house
    It looks like a dpc problem rising damp due to a break in the protective membrane that stops damp rising from the ground up .
    You might have to look in to injecting a liquid dpc below floor level.
    Did this problem occur before replastering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭mikehn


    Looking at the picture it looks like your radiator piping has been boxed in, as the is the area giving issues I would be inclined to remove the timber cladding to check the pipes in case of a leak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭simo28


    mikehn wrote: »
    Looking at the picture it looks like your radiator piping has been boxed in, as the is the area giving issues I would be inclined to remove the timber cladding to check the pipes in case of a leak.

    Thanks, I'll investigate but I think I may have an idea of the cause


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭simo28


    Update on this and opinions on what I've found will be appreciated.
    Also thanks to all for your contributions

    So outside the house, directly on the other side of the wall is a drain for the bath and sink in the bathroom. This was covered by a creeping ivy plant which I removed fully today to get a closer look. In the drain I can see what looks like a hole about a foot down. Now the drain pipe itself doesn't run as far down as this so is it possible that this is where water is getting in and causing the damp?
    Any suggestions on how to fill the hole, bare in mind how it will dry in a damp drain with water hitting it. Of course I can also replace the pipe and make sure it goes beyond the hole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    simo28 wrote: »
    Update on this and opinions on what I've found will be appreciated.
    Also thanks to all for your contributions

    So outside the house, directly on the other side of the wall is a drain for the bath and sink in the bathroom. This was covered by a creeping ivy plant which I removed fully today to get a closer look. In the drain I can see what looks like a hole about a foot down. Now the drain pipe itself doesn't run as far down as this so is it possible that this is where water is getting in and causing the damp?
    Any suggestions on how to fill the hole, bare in mind how it will dry in a damp drain with water hitting it. Of course I can also replace the pipe and make sure it goes beyond the hole.

    pop up a pic and we will look.
    usually better to replace a pipe than bodge on a patch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭Safehands


    simo28 wrote: »
    So outside the house, directly on the other side of the wall is a drain for the bath and sink in the bathroom. This was covered by a creeping ivy plant which I removed fully today to get a closer look. In the drain I can see what looks like a hole about a foot down. Now the drain pipe itself doesn't run as far down as this so is it possible that this is where water is getting in and causing the damp?
    Any suggestions on how to fill the hole, bare in mind how it will dry in a damp drain with water hitting it. Of course I can also replace the pipe and make sure it goes beyond the hole.

    Did you sort it yet?


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