Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Cost of house / estate construction

Options
  • 06-09-2017 11:17pm
    #1
    Calvin001
    Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭


    So it looks like this is back on the agenda (or the radio at least) and some government think-tank are going to come up with a number of stupid ideas on how a reduction in Tax could bring down the overall cost of irish construction.....

    My tuppence worth, is that our tendering system is actually driving up the overall construction cost - but can anyone confirm the procurement options used around europe??

    Traditional and most used procurement is Single stage selective.... lowest cost only considered... its known by everyone and cheapest for the Architect/QS to evaluate quickly.

    My thinking is that this procurement method, has over the years pushed all the risk to the contractor, who has decided to use divide the risk by using sub-contractors for all the large areas of work (blocklayers, slabbers, plasters, roofers, sparks, plumbers, painters, etc.) - I'd say no builder can build a house complete with only his own workforce...

    As each and every subbie looks to make a living, they add a profit percentages which increase the cost. Each subbie will also have a management element on site (to either review the work, or agree the costs/programme, etc.)

    Is there a market to change the procurement to a "labour and materials" or "construction management" and reduce the subbie/profits on profit element of the project....


Comments

  • Options
    #2
    BryanF
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,140 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    Architects don't generally select the lowest bidder. There is an evaluation process carried out that often shows up where some builders haven't priced for everything. only a fool would go with the lowest without carrying out this assessment.

    Builders are busy, they haven't been trained in 1000 pages of building regs that have come out since they built in the last boom.

    Archs/Eng/surveyors are being hammered by insurance and government shortsighted regulation

    the risk is pushed to the builder in part because of a lack of building control. Traditional a Builder is expected to know how to build, but there has been little training or regulation in the industry . clients are not willing to pay for arch/Eng/separate construction management.

    The cost of taxes on every level of building is substantial, it's s good place to start.

    Imo the Next place to look would be the building control system, followed by builder training followed by inclusion of arch techs on the building certification ' boys club' register


Advertisement