Man tries to remove clamp with hacksaw - caught by Garda.

eqwjewoiujqorj

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/music-student-sawed-clamp-off-his-car-because-he-only-had-half-of-the-80-fee-36107014.html

Gets clamped, tries to remove clamp with a hacksaw - caught by gards, no id so held in cell for the night, and to top it all off re-clamped.

Not the luckiest guy in the world.

A garda sergeant told Dublin District Court officers on patrol at 5.15pm, June 5 saw the accused cutting a clamp from a vehicle.

On speaking to him, McCallion admitted cutting the clamp from the wheel of his own vehicle.
He gave his name and was arrested and taken to Mountjoy Garda Station.

Defence solicitor Tony Collier said he understood the cost of the damage was about €380.

Judge Anthony Halpin applied the Probation Act, leaving him without a conviction after he paid €200 compensation for the damage.


The clamp would have cost €80 to have removed by the clampers but he only had €40 on him, “€20 of which he spent in a hardware shop on a hacksaw.”


“He was anxious to get home and not be stuck in Dublin,” Mr Collier said, adding that in the end McCallion had spent the night in Mountjoy Garda Station.

antodeco

Moral of the story: Don't touch council clamps!

eeguy

antodeco wrote: »

Moral of the story: Don't touch council clamps!

Private clampers are fair game though

martinr5232

antodeco wrote:

Moral of the story: Don't touch council clamps!

Or dont get caught doing it :-)

antodeco

eeguy wrote: »

Private clampers are fair game though

Absolutely! Don't think council clamps. Private clamps and Guarda don't care!

mossy50

Moral of the story use an ANGLE GRINDER much easier

kirving

200 quid for a bit of chain, that's steep. He hardly cut the body of the clamp like.

colm_mcm

I'm guessing he cut the actual clamp rather than the chain.

Vic_08

colm_mcm wrote: »

I'm guessing he cut the actual clamp rather than the chain.

With a hacksaw? No wonder he was caught, he must have been at it for ages.

wotzgoingon

I was clamped in Galway once. But it was a weird clamp that went through the alloys wheel which left all the wheel nuts exposed so I just took the wheel off and put the spare on and cut the clamp with power tools once I got home.

Nice try lads but you will have to try harder next time..... :pac: :cool:

sligojoek

€20 for a hacksaw. That's the real crime here.

colm_mcm

€20 for a hacksaw capable of cutting a clamp is a bargain

Alanstrainor

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I was clamped in Galway once. But it was a weird clamp that went through the alloys wheel which left all the wheel nuts exposed so I just took the wheel off and put the spare on and cut the clamp with power tools once I got home.

Nice try lads but you will have to try harder next time..... :pac: :cool:

I'd be livid if someone used one of those style clamps on my wheels. There's no way they didn't damage them putting it on!

Sam Kade

eeguy wrote: »

Private clampers are fair game though

A certain minority parked outside the emergency door of CUH blocking ambluance parking there. They were clamped and when they came out they contacted their comrades to bring an angle grinder and cut the clamp off while the clampers watched from a distance. I'd say they'd give the council clamp the same treatment without anyone approaching them.

duffman3833

slam your car and they cant clamp you

Grab All Association

duffman3833 wrote: »

slam your car and they cant clamp you

Not a bad idea tbh.

cfuserkildare

Happened to me once in a shopping center car-park.
Car was parked under a sign that states Customers have 4 hours to park,
Car was clamped after 35 minutes!!!
Stated this, and informed them that the Clamper had damaged the paint on my car and that my Solicitor was on way to inspect damage.
Clamp was removed within 20 minutes, and now center uses a different company to maintain car-park!!

endacl

Grab All Association wrote: »

Not a bad idea tbh.

The downside is you look like a tool.

colm_mcm

endacl wrote: »

The downside is you look like a tool.

Buy a Citroen xm

cruizer101

Vic_08 wrote: »

With a hacksaw? No wonder he was caught, he must have been at it for ages.

With a hacksaw it might actually be quicker, a hacksaw will really struggle with the hardened chain but the clamp itself it normal steel

Guy:Incognito

colm_mcm wrote: »

Buy a Citroen xm

Pay for parking/ don't park where youre not allowed

endacl

colm_mcm wrote: »

Buy a Citroen xm

The downside is you're stuck with a French car. And look like a tool.

Mini850

Classic Minis with 10' wheels and slightly lowered are un-clampable.

It was great when I had it. It also had an old style reg (637 MZZ style) so the parking ticket enforcer couldnt even give me a ticket (their hand held gizmo for giving you a ticket doesnt do the old reg numbers apparently, open to correction on that but never happened me)

Cerco

Surprised his solicitor did not complain about his detention overnight for such a trivial issue.
Any reasonable person would think a simple warning would have been enough.

Guy:Incognito

Cerco wrote: »

Surprised his solicitor did not complain about his detention overnight for such a trivial issue.
Any reasonable person would think a simple warning would have been enough.

The detention was because he had no Id to prove who he was wasn't it?

EndaHonesty

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

The detention was because he had no Id to prove who he was wasn't it?

Surely his car reg would identify him?...

Henry Ford III

EndaHonesty wrote:

Surely his car reg would identify him?...

Maybe the car but not its driver

Riva10

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Maybe the car but not its driver

Surely a law abiding student would have his driver's licence on him. :eek:

EndaHonesty

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Maybe the car but not its driver

It gives a definite route to identifying the owner and therefore the driver.

Keeping someone in a cell overnight for such a modest crime is ridiculous IMO.

I hope he at least got a good breakfast out of them...

Edit: The accused was from the North so does that change things?...

wotzgoingon

This is him.



http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/music-student-bought-hacksaw-and-cut-clamp-off-car-because-he-only-had-half-of-80-fee-36108506.html

pred racer

the interesting part of this story (to me anyway) was that the judge said the fact that they re-clamped him was possibly illegal

"When the judge heard the car had since been re-clamped, he said he did not believe this was legal and advised the accused to make a criminal complaint against Dublin City Council"

dr.fuzzenstein

mossy50 wrote: »

Moral of the story use an ANGLE GRINDER much easier

Strange why so many people carry them. Drove in Ireland for 22 years and was never once clamped.
I don't know, it's like some people are either very unlucky or they are doing something wrong...

wotzgoingon

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Strange why so many people carry them. Drove in Ireland for 22 years and was never once clamped.
I don't know, it's like some people are either very unlucky or they are doing something wrong...

I was only clamped once and that was outside the back of Galway hospital. They used to let people park there but there was construction work going on and delivery's and such to the building site were blocked by cars. People who are there regular knew about the changes I didn't as I don't be there too often but I always parked there when I was at the hospital. So that particular day I went to park and I remember saying to myself they mustn't be busy today as it was usually really hard to find a spot(illegal spot mind you) Came out a while later to find I was clamped.

But I never paid the fine and they were down a clamp afterwards.

dr.fuzzenstein

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I was only clamped once and that was outside the back of Galway hospital. They used to let people park there but there was construction work going on and delivery's and such to the building site were blocked by cars. People who are there regular knew about the changes I didn't as I don't be there too often but I always parked there when I was at the hospital. So that particular day I went to park and I remember saying to myself they mustn't be busy today as it was usually really hard to find a spot(illegal spot mind you) Came out a while later to find I was clamped.

But I never paid the fine and they were down a clamp afterwards.

Do you ever wonder why they clamp? I don't just mean your case, looks like there was no signeage or you need glasses (I'll get me coat )
The obnoxious parking thread speaks volumes.
And especially in private estates or anywhere not on a public road it's endemic. People just ignore signs and markings and just dump their cars any old where. The Lidl in Ennis had to put up plastic bollards to stop people from blocking the entrance and trolly bay. Once people discovered the bollards were quite flimsy, they just drove over them. If that's not the ultimate fcuk you...
I'm back in Germany now for a year and it is true, people do really keep to the rules much more. It doesn't matter if it's a public road, hospital car parks (which I regretably had to use quite a bit), a government authority or the local Lidl or Aldi car park. You will almost never see a car parked out of line. If there is, there will be a crowd of bewildered people standing around it, tutting and sighing.
And the funniest thing? I haven't seen any clamping in any of those spots. Doesn't exist. People just try their best to play by the rules. But if you do park anywhere you're really not supposed to, you are then kindly invited to collect your car from the local pound for a small (large) fee. And I haven't ever seen anyone get towed.
Maybe it's a difference in attitude.
Germany: Those rules exist so that we can all get along together and if everyone keeps to the system, life will be easier.
Ireland: Jaysis, fcuk that, bunch of bastards trying to stop me from doing what I want, well, fcuk that any way terfcuk.

begbysback

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

The detention was because he had no Id to prove who he was wasn't it?

It was, he couldn't prove who he wasn't, so the gardai didn't know who he was

Riva10

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Do you ever wonder why they clamp? I don't just mean your case, looks like there was no signeage or you need glasses (I'll get me coat )
The obnoxious parking thread speaks volumes.
And especially in private estates or anywhere not on a public road it's endemic. People just ignore signs and markings and just dump their cars any old where. The Lidl in Ennis had to put up plastic bollards to stop people from blocking the entrance and trolly bay. Once people discovered the bollards were quite flimsy, they just drove over them. If that's not the ultimate fcuk you...
I'm back in Germany now for a year and it is true, people do really keep to the rules much more. It doesn't matter if it's a public road, hospital car parks (which I regretably had to use quite a bit), a government authority or the local Lidl or Aldi car park. You will almost never see a car parked out of line. If there is, there will be a crowd of bewildered people standing around it, tutting and sighing.
And the funniest thing? I haven't seen any clamping in any of those spots. Doesn't exist. People just try their best to play by the rules. But if you do park anywhere you're really not supposed to, you are then kindly invited to collect your car from the local pound for a small (large) fee. And I haven't ever seen anyone get towed.
Maybe it's a difference in attitude.
Germany: Those rules exist so that we can all get along together and if everyone keeps to the system, life will be easier.
Ireland: Jaysis, fcuk that, bunch of bastards trying to stop me from doing what I want, well, fcuk that any way terfcuk.

As for people in Europe obeying the rules, I agree with you. The problem in Ireland is that since the foundation of the State, people in certain exalted positions are exempt from the laws which govern the working class. We have one of the most corrupt goverments in the world and their example finds its way down the line. Lead by example and not by penalty. :mad:

begbysback

wotzgoingon wrote: »

This is him.



http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/music-student-bought-hacksaw-and-cut-clamp-off-car-because-he-only-had-half-of-80-fee-36108506.html

I'd have held him overnight too, looks suspect

Guard: What's your name kid?
Kid: Hacksaw Herbie sir

JimmyMcGill

If it was me I'd just ruffle my stubble along the chain and snap it off .

goochy

Was busy but wasn't there something on Liveline last week about some girl who took clamp off her car ? guards send once the clamp isn't damaged its ok ?? didn't get full story - anyone get ?

colm_mcm

Yeah she cable tied to underneath the car and drove off I think!

gctest50

If they were looking at him on CCTV trying to cut a clamp with a hacksaw , he'd look a bit special.

They'd have to be concerned about his safety and go see what was wrong