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County Council Job

  • 03-09-2017 1:01pm
    #1
    hillbloom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭


    A friend has applied for GRADE 2 in County Council but has 5 years proper work experience. If he gets this position will he have to start at the bottom of the scale which is 26,000e. He is on 40,000e now but wants a permanent pensionable job. Would the Interview board take this experience into account.


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  • #2
    Zipppy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭Zipppy


    Dunno what a grade 2 is...but...
    Experience is not taken into account by I review boards as interviews are competancy based and marks are only awarded based on interview performance and answers...
    If person is not already as public servant they will start on min of scale...if they are already a public servant then they MAY get some credit and start higher up scale. generally assessed on case by case basis


  • #3
    hillbloom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭hillbloom


    He is not a Civil Servant. The pay scale starts at 26000e but as he has so much experience he is not prepared to take that amount. It would suit him perfectly if candidates were assessed case by case basis. It is an Interview, there is no exam involved only an optional oral Irish.


  • #4
    Zipppy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭Zipppy


    hillbloom wrote:
    He is not a Civil Servant. The pay scale starts at 26000e but as he has so much experience he is not prepared to take that amount. It would suit him perfectly if candidates were assessed case by case basis. It is an Interview, there is no exam involved only an optional oral Irish.


    Case by case for EXISTING civil or public servants....if non existing they will start on 26k..experience will not count...
    but by all means do interview and see what happens...


  • #5
    daithi84
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭daithi84


    hillbloom wrote: »
    He is not a Civil Servant. The pay scale starts at 26000e but as he has so much experience he is not prepared to take that amount. It would suit him perfectly if candidates were assessed case by case basis. It is an Interview, there is no exam involved only an optional oral Irish.

    There is no negotiating the salary. Only if he is a serving public or civil servant prior to accepting the appointment would he start somewhere else on the pay scale. Otherwise all new entrants start at the start of the pay scale.


  • #6
    wolfe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 475 ✭✭wolfe


    no such thing as a grade 2. Grade 3 is lowest grade in Council on admin side. Grade 1 and 2's were amalgamated into grade 3 roles about 20 years ago.


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  • #7
    BrianD3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    wolfe wrote: »
    no such thing as a grade 2. Grade 3 is lowest grade in Council on admin side. Grade 1 and 2's were amalgamated into grade 3 roles about 20 years ago.
    OP didn't say it was on the admin side. There is such a thing as a "grade 2" - a Grade II Technician which has a starting salary of about 26k i.e. the figure quoted by the OP.

    To answer the original question, it's highly unlikely that your friend would start on anything other than 26k. If he turns down the job because he's not offered enough money there will no doubt be a good candidate behind him on the panel glad to do it for 26k. That's assuming your friend even gets on the panel, nothing is guaranteed. Big competition for these jobs now. He's not the only person with the idea of getting a badly paid "permanent and pensionable" job (even if it turns out to be a temp contract and the pension for new entrants is crap)


  • #8
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,588 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    You start on the base of the scale when coming into the public service as a newcomer.
    The previous experience will help him gain the job, but will not allow a gain in salary.

    Its worth noting, that when his pension contribution & levy are taken out of the 26k salary.


  • #9
    hillbloom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭hillbloom


    Thanks for all the replies. BrianD, you are correct I never mentioned admin. It was a Grade 2. A Grade 1 is higher!!


  • #10
    Shasheen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 ✭Shasheen


    Any one know what the terms / benefits are for a new starter as Assistant Staff Officer, Grade 4? Ive just got on to the panel for Galway Co Co but have a good job in the private sector so trying to weigh up my options. Thanks in advance


  • #11
    toonarmy1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭toonarmy1


    kceire wrote: »
    You start on the base of the scale when coming into the public service as a newcomer.
    The previous experience will help him gain the job, but will not allow a gain in salary.

    Its worth noting, that when his pension contribution & levy are taken out of the 26k salary.

    What would someone be taking home on this salary ?


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