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Refund of Motor Tax

  • 02-09-2017 8:37pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,127 ✭✭✭✭


    Under what circumstances is it possible to reclaim the value of a tax disc? A friends car had broken down and is beyond economical repair. The car will be used against a 172 scrappage deal but revenue are telling him that he needs a certificate of destruction of the car to get the 11 months remaining tax back. The problem is that he will be signing the log book over to the dealer so it seems difficult to do this.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    scrap it or export it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,127 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Can it be scrapped without the log book? The dealer needs that to give the scrappage discount. The repairs will cost three times the cars value so it's only fit for scrap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,426 ✭✭✭billbond4


    You need a form to say it's scrapped, and you can't claim if under 3 months left


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Can it be scrapped without the log book? The dealer needs that to give the scrappage discount. The repairs will cost three times the cars value so it's only fit for scrap.

    The dealer will sell it on, there is no scrappage its a marketing ploy. The next buyer will most likely include the remaining tax on it when they pay the dealer. The "scrappage" is a distributor offer and nothing to do with the dealer, so the dealer will try to make as much from the car as possible and remaining tax is money in the bank.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    You can't claim back unless you get a certificate of destruction for the car


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    Del2005 wrote: »
    The dealer will sell it on, there is no scrappage its a marketing ploy. The next buyer will most likely include the remaining tax on it when they pay the dealer. The "scrappage" is a distributor offer and nothing to do with the dealer, so the dealer will try to make as much from the car as possible and remaining tax is money in the bank.

    exactly right, you need to try and get the trade in price increased to cover the remaining tax or get some mats or something thrown in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    If it's beyond repair then why should the garage give you more? Absolutely try and get more money off but don't be shocked if you don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,127 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    My understanding is that the certificate of destruction will go to the dealer, allowing them to claim the tax, I know they won't but they can. Is that correct?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Gael23 wrote: »
    My understanding is that the certificate of destruction will go to the dealer, allowing them to claim the tax, I know they won't but they can. Is that correct?

    The dealer you buy the new car from has zero interest in the car you are trading for the "scrappage". They will sell it onto someone who will either scrap or repair it, the price they pay will include something for the remaining tax.

    You are already getting several thousand off a new car for a vehicle which is not running so essentially worthless, why are you looking to get more money?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    your friend is trading his car in to the dealer. In those circumstances , the tax stays with it. He can't reclaim the tax on sale of the vehicle, only if exported or scrapped.
    If the dealer or whoever the dealer sells it to scraps it and gets a cert of destruction , that person will be able to reclaim the tax.


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