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wind turbines

  • 30-08-2017 9:41pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭


    How much would it cost a farmer to put up a wind turbine

    One that would generate a good income where you could sell the electricity on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Tomjim wrote: »
    How much would it cost a farmer to put up a wind turbine

    One that would generate a good income where you could sell the electricity on

    I know one guy that spent a 6 figure sum on the connection to the grid alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭studdlymurphy


    I know one guy that spent a 6 figure sum on the connection to the grid alone.


    >100,000 for connection to the grid alone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,194 ✭✭✭alps


    Up to 1.5 million per Mw, ballpark...grid connection, if possible, typically costing 100k per km run.

    Single turbines under 800kw were given access to local 20kv lines, not sure if this still is the case.

    Payback period on above single turbine would be about 13 years on borrowed funds. It's tight and dependent on factors like wind consistency, interest rates, rising CPI etc, so it's a tight margined project in that initial phase, but you would have some party for the following 10 years..

    Of course if you have the funds available at no cost, it would be legs up for the whole of the project time.

    The machine lifespan would be 20/25 years and this also corresponds with the planning permission length, after which incidentally, all the turbines must come down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    >100,000 for connection to the grid alone?


    A guy I worked for was quoted 500k for connection to the grid for an aerobic digester bout 5 years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭The part time boy


    Are you thinking about a big one like the ones been commercial put up or a small one that can run your farm and house and and surplus sold back to the grid ?

    If its the former i dunno would it be economical to Build just one of them. I also think you have problem getting planning for just one . I would Imange the planners would prefer farms of them instead of ones dotted around everywhere .

    If its the latter i just say i have 2 client who put them up in the last 10 yeara and both are not working anymore . When i asked why they said there broken and its costing too much to fix them


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Tomjim wrote: »
    How much would it cost a farmer to put up a wind turbine

    One that would generate a good income where you could sell the electricity on

    Wind turbines cost more to buy and run than the electricity they produce. I know a man that had a turbine to power his house and business and had to take it down after 2 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,266 ✭✭✭50HX


    alps wrote: »
    Up to 1.5 million per Mw, ballpark...grid connection, if possible, typically costing 100k per km run.

    Single turbines under 800kw were given access to local 20kv lines, not sure if this still is the case.

    Payback period on above single turbine would be about 13 years on borrowed funds. It's tight and dependent on factors like wind consistency, interest rates, rising CPI etc, so it's a tight margined project in that initial phase, but you would have some party for the following 10 years..

    Of course if you have the funds available at no cost, it would be legs up for the whole of the project time.

    The machine lifespan would be 20/25 years and this also corresponds with the planning permission length, after which incidentally, all the turbines must come down.


    after 20-25 years they must come down, is that applicable to all the large scale farms that are up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Wind turbines cost more to buy and run than the electricity they produce. I know a man that had a turbine to power his house and business and had to take it down after 2 years.

    I was thinking of one recent. I'm in process of finishing an office and thought a turbine might be good. Maybe a diesel back up generator might be better investment.

    Currently closed 3 days a year due to no power with ESB doing routine planned maintenance


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭darragh_haven


    A guy I worked for was quoted 500k for connection to the grid for an aerobic digester bout 5 years ago.

    I work in Anaerobic digestionin Northern Ireland and grid connection of 500k is not uncommon. Only a lucky few get a connection under 100k (sterling prices)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    I work in Anaerobic digestionin Northern Ireland and grid connection of 500k is not uncommon. Only a lucky few get a connection under 100k (sterling prices)

    Would what that price include ?

    Does ESB networks charge to make the physical contact to the grid down south ?

    Surely this should be encouraged more.

    1850e to join the grid here for power. You have to have all ducts in place etc.

    1800e to join the water

    And 120e (approx) to have a phone line put in.

    You would wonder how ESB and Irish water fleece over essential service yet a luxury item is a fraction of cost


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    All commercial wind turbines have a limited planning time, usually 20 years, with removal as one of the conditions. Most likely a new planning would be applied for and newer turbines put up within the time frame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,194 ✭✭✭alps


    50HX wrote: »
    after 20-25 years they must come down, is that applicable to all the large scale farms that are up

    Yes...and a bond in place as part of the planning condition, to pay for their removal in case the company cannot afford to do so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    I believe the planning last a lot longer.. Also some guys will want compo for line through fields. Example of six figure for one lad! It's getting harder and harder to build them due to people who don't like them and persons who want a slice


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