RTB 2016 Report

gizmo81

At the end of 2016, there were 325,372 registered tenancies, up 6,000 on 2015. Over 106,000 new tenancies were registered in 2016, compared with 111,000 in 2013, suggesting many households are staying longer in tenancies as supply stays constrained.

Tenancies up and tenants staying put. Great result.

Sadly though as expected:

Almost eight in 10 landlords in rent pressure zones wrongly imposed rent increases on tenants, according to the State authority that handles landlord-tenant disputes

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/rent-pressure-zone-landlords-imposed-illegal-price-hikes-1.3202747

Rent more than market rate (not applicable for Approved Housing Body tenancies) 255 Disputes

Since the introduction of Rent Pressure Zones (RPZs) in December 2016, there has been a notable increase in rent review disputes cases coming before the RTB.In 2016, 44 cases involving rent of more than market rate reached Determination Order stage. Of these cases 10 (23%) rent review notices were found to be valid

https://www.rtb.ie/docs/default-source/annual-reports/rtb-annual-report-2016BA6938A14CD4.pdf?sfvrsn=4

I look forward to reading the report in full.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/record-130000-calls-to-tenancies-board-in-2016-803847.html

Graham

gizmo81 wrote: »

Sadly though as expected:

Almost eight in 10 landlords in rent pressure zones wrongly imposed rent increases on tenants, according to the State authority that handles landlord-tenant disputes

325,372 Tenancies, 55% of them (178,955) in RPZs.

You're saying the full report tells us 8 in 10 of RPZ Tenancies (143,163 in total) had wrongly imposed rent increases?

The_Conductor

Graham wrote: »

325,372 Tenancies, 55% of them (178,955) in RPZs.

You're saying the full report tells us 8 in 10 of RPZ Tenancies (143,163 in total) had wrongly imposed rent increases?

8-in-10 disputed rent increases which featured tenancies in RPZs, were found, when examined, to be in breach of rent adjustment rules.

I.e. of the disputed increases- 78% of them were found to have been in breach of either allowable increases- or- for other reasons (including improperly served notices of increase etc).

It wasn't just the RPZ increases which are included in the rulings- and the 80% measure- is 80% of cases taken to the RTB- not 80% of tenancies.

The_Conductor

By the way- the annual report isn't on the RTB website just yet (it should be tomorrow)- the link to where it'll be, along with all the historic annual reports is here.

The_Conductor

Few funny stats being dripfed on various news sites- just under 20% of all calls to the RTB- are from tenants, over 67% are from landlords- and the remaining 13% are from agents, agencies, third parties etc.

Including calls from agents and agencies- almost 71% of all calls relate to queries on registering or closing off tenancies (this is a total and covers queries from both tenants and landlords).

On average the RTB is answering 522 phone calls per day (peaking at over 1000 whenever there is a change to legislation or requirements that is reported on in the media). This came to 130,396 phone calls in 2016.

The number of cases raised by tenants regarding rent reviews was 348 in 2016- of which 257 were wholly or partially upheld, and 91 were dismissed as being without merit (with awards being made to landlords in 68 of these cases- mostly relating to secondary claims of overholding).

Etc. etc.

jamesthepeach

I haven't read it yet.
Any stats on how long it took to resolve each category of case?

Eg overholding, eviction etc

I can't wait to see the one for 2017. I bet new tenancies is gonna hit the floor. Both because of people staying put, and landlords moving to other markets. Pretty sure they can already see the trend on this themselves but won't release it for another year.

Macha

jamesthepeach wrote: »

I haven't read it yet.
Any stats on how long it took to resolve each category of case?

Eg overholding, eviction etc

I can't wait to see the one for 2017.  I bet new tenancies is gonna hit the floor. Both because of people staying put, and landlords moving to other markets.  Pretty sure they can already see the trend on this themselves but won't release it for another year.

I just heard the Radio 1 interview on this and the RTB person being interviewed said they hear a lot about landlords leaving the market but they don't see it in the statistics.

jamesthepeach

Macha wrote: »

I just heard the Radio 1 interview on this and the RTB person being interviewed said they hear a lot about landlords leaving the market but they don't see it in the statistics.

Maybe they could release their statistics amd methods so we can see for ourselves then.

I'd say it's someone speaking about 2015 or 2016 stats but not declaring they are speaking about 2015 or 2016 stats.

It's the stats since the new legislation (2017) that will tell all.

Macha

I agree it's weird that they would launch the report but not publish the report.

Uriel.

The_Conductor wrote: »

Few funny stats being dripfed on various news sites- just under 20% of all calls to the RTB- are from tenants, over 67% are from landlords- and the remaining 13% are from agents, agencies, third parties etc.

Including calls from agents and agencies- almost 71% of all calls relate to queries on registering or closing off tenancies (this is a total and covers queries from both tenants and landlords).

On average the RTB is answering 522 phone calls per day (peaking at over 1000 whenever there is a change to legislation or requirements that is reported on in the media). This came to 130,396 phone calls in 2016.

The number of cases raised by tenants regarding rent reviews was 348 in 2016- of which 257 were wholly or partially upheld, and 91 were dismissed as being without merit (with awards being made to landlords in 68 of these cases- mostly relating to secondary claims of overholding).

Etc. etc.

RTB trying to justify their existence /resource hunting? It is Estimates season after all.

4ensic15

How many of the "new" tenancies are existing tenancies being registered for the first time? How many previously unregistered tenacies have disappeared without ever having been recorded?
The census figures for 2011 and 2016 need to be compared to get an accurate view of the situation.

DubCount

Maybe its previously unregistered properties being registered. Maybe its new accidental landlords replacing exiting ones. Maybe its REITs expanding their operations. To me it doesn't matter. An increase of 6,000 tenancies is a 1.8% increase in 12 months. That's not even close to servicing increased demand, let alone eat into the pre-existing lack of supply. In spite of rental inflation outpacing house price inflation, a 1.8% increase is not a stampede of new landlords excited by the prospect of living in a land of milk and honey.

tinkerbell

Is anybody listening to Pat Kenny on Newstalk right now? He's talking to a woman (I think from the RTB) as they are discussing this report. PK asked her how long it takes if say after 2 months, a LL goes to you to say their tenant has not paid rent for 2 months - how long does it take to get the tenant out of the property? She said "12 weeks". He said to get them out? She said "12 weeks from start to finish".

What planet is she living on? All I read about on here is people overholding and staying on for months on end ...! PK doesn't sound convinced ...

tinkerbell

PK - is rent arrears the top issue?

RTB representative: yes, rent arrears is the top issue.
Overholding we treat very seriously.

jamesthepeach

tinkerbell wrote: »

Is anybody listening to Pat Kenny on Newstalk right now? He's talking to a woman (I think from the RTB) as they are discussing this report. PK asked her how long it takes if say after 2 months, a LL goes to you to say their tenant has not paid rent for 2 months - how long does it take to get the tenant out of the property? She said "12 weeks". He said to get them out? She said "12 weeks from start to finish".

What planet is she living on? All I read about on here is people overholding and staying on for months on end ...! PK doesn't sound convinced ...

Proof that the rtb spin stats for their own use.
Nothing more than politics. The truth would not hurt one but, and yet they are happy to lie to the public as readily as any politician.

A shower best avoided at all costs.

tinkerbell

She also said that LL/tenants can check the RTB website for determination orders that they publish to see if a prospective LL/tenant is dodgy. Nothing about how a dodgy tenant/LL can get that determination order removed from the website.

RTB-"Withholding rent is not a criminal offence".
PK "why should you not be locked up for not paying rent as it's theft"?

PK-most of your complaints come from LLs.

gizmo81

Pat wants a register of minimum and maximum prices for all rental properties. Like hotels have in rooms along with max occupancy.

gizmo81

No mass exodus by landlords in the rental market says RTB spokeswoman on Pat Kenny

170,282 landlords in the 2015 report up to 175,000 in 2016 with 70% being one property landlords.

sk8board

gizmo81 wrote: »

No mass exodus by landlords in the rental market says RTB spokeswoman on Pat Kenny

As a LL, I'm still not convinced on the LL numbers - the number of tenancies only increased 6000 (1.8%) in 2016, yet they sent out over 20k letters to suspected unregistered properties (which they do every year). Some of these will be old tenancies now gone back into owner/occupier, and some with be gone to AirBnB, but its easy to see 6k new tenancies being registered without a single new property coming on the rental market.

I think it's a revolving door or LL's leaving the market and cash LL's being forced to register.

Last night there were only 2,995 properties for rent, thats the only number you need to know to see that people are people are staying longer/there are fewer LL's/LL's are moving properties to other markets. take your pick.

edit: also, it takes 6-9 months to remove tenants and sell a house - so it wouldn't be reflected in the 2016 numbers in any case.

jamesthepeach

gizmo81 wrote: »

No mass exodus by landlords in the rental market says RTB spokeswoman on Pat Kenny

170,282 landlords in the 2015 report up to 175,000 in 2016 with 70% being one property landlords.

Exodus is since start of 2017.
But they know that and as suspected choose to talk around it rather than tell the true story.

sk8board

gizmo81 wrote: »

170,282 landlords in the 2015 report up to 175,000 in 2016 with 70% being one property landlords.

that 70% figure shows you how unprofessional the market is. People with 3+ rental properties should be allowed create companies to run them professionally - creating an accountable market with far fewer LL's.

gizmo81

Of 4,837 disputes, 59% tenants opposed to 39% landlords took cases to dispute with the RTB.

Damages were awarded to 44% tenants and 56% landlords.

Page 36

https://www.rtb.ie/docs/default-source/annual-reports/rtb-annual-report-2016BA6938A14CD4.pdf?sfvrsn=4

jamesthepeach

sk8board wrote: »

As a LL, I'm still not convinced on the LL numbers - the number of tenancies only increased 6000 (1.8%) in 2016, yet they sent out over 20k letters to suspected unregistered properties (which they do every year). Some of these will be old tenancies now gone back into owner/occupier, and some with be gone to AirBnB, but its easy to see 6k new tenancies being registered without a single new property coming on the rental market.

I think it's a revolving door or LL's leaving the market and cash LL's being forced to register.

Last night there were only 2,995 properties for rent, thats the only number you need to know to see that people are people are staying longer/there are fewer LL's/LL's are moving properties to other markets. take your pick.

edit: also, it takes 6-9 months to remove tenants and sell a house - so it wouldn't be reflected in the 2016 numbers in any case.

I got such a letter from them.
I binned it as.ive sold one and gone short term on another. They'll probably keep sending letters and they will go straight in the bin too.

The_Conductor

tinkerbell wrote: »

Is anybody listening to Pat Kenny on Newstalk right now? He's talking to a woman (I think from the RTB) as they are discussing this report. PK asked her how long it takes if say after 2 months, a LL goes to you to say their tenant has not paid rent for 2 months - how long does it take to get the tenant out of the property? She said "12 weeks". He said to get them out? She said "12 weeks from start to finish".

What planet is she living on? All I read about on here is people overholding and staying on for months on end ...! PK doesn't sound convinced ...

Perhaps she meant to say 12 months?
It would almost be approximating a normal rental market- if it were 12 weeks.
Or perhaps she means- 12 weeks for a landlord to exhaust their RTB mechanisms at their disposal- before they move on to court options?

If/when the RTB takes court action on behalf of a landlord to evict a non-paying overholding tenant- how long does it take a landlord to get repossession of the property, and how much damage is done to the property (on average)- that would be a good question..........?

Edit- Page 33 - 12 weeks to access dispute resolution services (i.e. once you lodge a case- its 12 weeks waiting time to access Dispute Resolution Services from the RTB- not 12 weeks before its resolved). This 12 weeks is the same for both tenants and landlords.

amcalester

gizmo81 wrote: »

59% tenants opposed to 39% landlords took cases to dispute with the RTB.

Damages were awarded to 44% tenants and 56% landlords.

Page 36

https://www.rtb.ie/docs/default-source/annual-reports/rtb-annual-report-2016BA6938A14CD4.pdf?sfvrsn=4

Incorrect.

59% of the total disputes were taken by tenants, not 59% of tenants initiated disputes.

Quite an important distinction.

sk8board

gizmo81 wrote: »

Of 4,837 disputes, 59% tenants opposed to 39% landlords took cases to dispute with the RTB.

Facinating - only 1% of the total tenancies (59% of 4,800, out of 325k) were disputes initiated by tenants regarding landlords?

1%?

and then remove:
thats 1% of tenancies, not 1% of LL's (average LL has 1-2 tenancies)
some LL's could have more than one dispute registered
and some LL's will have disputes registered against a number of properties
and it doesn't include the disputes that were dismissed, or found in favour of the LL.

the RTB numbers suggest there are disputes with far less than 1% of all landlords.

but all landlords are evil, no?

either that, or people must be avoiding the RTB for their disputes in large numbers.

DubCount

Just a note on the 6,000 increase in registered tenancies. 2016 saw a requirement for Approved Housing Bodies to register tenancies with the RTB. 5,550 AHB's registered their tenancies with the RTB in 2016. That's most of the increase !!

sk8board

DubCount wrote: »

Just a note on the 6,000 increase in registered tenancies. 2016 saw a requirement for Approved Housing Bodies to register tenancies with the RTB. 5,550 AHB's registered their tenancies with the RTB in 2016. That's most of the increase !!

saw that too just now - they say the AHB control 30k properties though (pg 3)?

gizmo81

gizmo81 wrote: »

Sadly though as expected:

Almost eight in 10 landlords in rent pressure zones wrongly imposed rent increases on tenants, according to the State authority that handles landlord-tenant disputes

This is the most wildly incorrect statement (being put across as the truth) I've read in a long time. This needs to be edited as its nothing but an anti-LL slur.

Just to demonstrate the sheer lies, the post above is claiming 80% of LLs in rent pressure zones have wrongly imposed a rent increase so that would be 143,163 LL (yes the is not the number of LLs but the number of tenancies but the claims above will be using the number of tenancies too not actual no. of LLs).

However as we can see below the actual number of cases raised was 348 (which may be all tenancies not just pressure zone) and of that 73% were upheld so which is 257.

So 257 tenancies/LLs out of 178,995 had illegal rent reviews which is approximately 0.14%.

So the op is claiming 80% whereas as a rough estimate of the actual number is 0.14%. Astonishing misrepresentation of stats.

The_Conductor wrote: »

The number of cases raised by tenants regarding rent reviews was 348 in 2016- of which 257 were wholly or partially upheld, and 91 were dismissed as being without merit (with awards being made to landlords in 68 of these cases- mostly relating to secondary claims of overholding).

Etc. etc.

The_Conductor

sk8board wrote: »

saw that too just now - they say the AHB control 30k properties though (pg 3)?

Yup- so while there was an increase of 6,000 in the overall number of registered tenancies- but a whole new batch of 30,000 from AHB controlled tenancies- which *do* feature in the overall number- but did not in 2015- this infers a net fall of 24,000- despite the RTB sending out 20,000 odd letters to landlords who previously had tenancies registered?

Something strange going on.........

The_Conductor

gizmo81 wrote: »

Of 4,837 disputes, 59% tenants opposed to 39% landlords took cases to dispute with the RTB.

Damages were awarded to 44% tenants and 56% landlords.

Page 36

https://www.rtb.ie/docs/default-source/annual-reports/rtb-annual-report-2016BA6938A14CD4.pdf?sfvrsn=4

However- look at the manner in which the tenants got the RTB to pursue cases to retrieve the awards- but the landlords, (by and large) didn't...........

sk8board

The_Conductor wrote: »

Yup- so while there was an increase of 6,000 in the overall number of registered tenancies- but a whole new batch of 30,000 from AHB controlled tenancies- which *do* feature in the overall number- but did not in 2015- this infers a net fall of 24,000- despite the RTB sending out 20,000 odd letters to landlords who previously had tenancies registered?

Something strange going on.........

"In 2016, the remit of the RTB expanded to encompass regulation of Approved Housing Body tenancies, increasing our customer base of landlords and tenants."

also:
" Approved Housing Bodies had one year to register their tenancies following commencement of the legislation in April 2016."

and most importantly:
"By the end of 2016, some 5,550 AHBs had registered their tenancies with the RTB. "

in other words, that 5,500 are counted as LL's, its far more in terms of tenancies.

they are genuinely fudging the LL numbers. Its definitely down YoY on a like-with-like basis. They've simply found 5.5K AHA LL's down the back of the sofa, and also registered a bunch of new cash LL's, like they do every year.

gizmo81

Tribunals
47% (243 cases) were from landlords,
+ 52% (263 cases) were from tenants, and
+ 1% (6 cases) were from a third party.

Enforcement Requests
A total of 235 (66%) of the 359 requests received by the RTB in 2016 were from landlords.
Tenants made 118 (32%) requests for enforcement
Only 6 requests (less than 2%) were submitted by third parties (neighbours).

Of the 204 Circuit Court Orders obtained in 2016, 171 were against tenants and 33 against landlords.

Very clear in these figures that the RTB is not biased in favour of tenants.

wordofwarning

gizmo81 wrote: »

Tribunals
47% (243 cases) were from landlords,
+ 52% (263 cases) were from tenants, and
+ 1% (6 cases) were from a third party.

Enforcement Requests
A total of 235 (66%) of the 359 requests received by the RTB in 2016 were from landlords.
Tenants made 118 (32%) requests for enforcement
Only 6 requests (less than 2%) were submitted by third parties (neighbours).

Of the 204 Circuit Court Orders obtained in 2016, 171 were against tenants and 33 against landlords.

Very clear in these figures that the RTB is not biased in favour of tenants.

AFAIK as a tenant you need a potential case that is a fraction of the size of a case needed by a landlord. It is far easier for a tenant to bring a case, than a landlord to bring a case

The_Conductor

gizmo81 wrote: »

At the end of 2016, there were 325,372 registered tenancies, up 6,000 on 2015.

If you factor the 30,000+ AHB tenancies which were registered with the RTB for the first time (and this is not all the AHB tenancies!) its actually down 24,000 year on year.

gizmo81 wrote: »

Over 106,000 new tenancies were registered in 2016, compared with 111,000 in 2013, suggesting many households are staying longer in tenancies as supply stays constrained.

Once again- the AHB tenancies- mean the number of new tenancies- is actually down somewhere in the 60,000-70,000 area (if you consider that they're not all registered yet). This is an indication of just how constrained supply is- and while you mentioned it shows people staying in tenancies longer- they're probably staying in tenancies significantly longer than you figure- the RTB mention in their report how the length of tenancies is now akin to continental style tenancy length- however, they don't enumerate it.

gizmo81 wrote: »

Tenancies up and tenants staying put. Great result.

Sadly though as expected:

Almost eight in 10 landlords in rent pressure zones wrongly imposed rent increases on tenants, according to the State authority that handles landlord-tenant disputes

Of the disputed rent increases which feature tenancies in RPZs (fewer than 50 in total reached determination stage) the RTB had this to say:

Since the introduction of Rent Pressure Zones
(RPZs) in December 2016, there has been
a notable increase in rent review disputes
cases coming before the RTB. In 2016, 44
cases involving rent of more than market rate
reached Determination Order stage. Of these
cases 10 (23%) rent review notices were found
to be valid and 34 (77%) were found to be
invalid.]

I.e. a grand total of 44 cases were brought by tenants to the RTB- who believed they were being served with invalid notices of rent increase and/or invalid increases- while in an RPZ. Something a bit strange that almost a quarter were found to be fully justifiable- you'd imagine the tenant would have a stronger case than simply lob a complaint into the RTB. Also- 44 cases- is less than 0.014% of all tenancies- statistically, it is termed 'insignificant'.

Finally-

No mass exodus by landlords in the rental market says RTB spokeswoman on Pat Kenny

170,282 landlords in the 2015 report up to 175,000 in 2016 with 70% being one property landlords.

If you strip out the 5,500 AHBs- who are counted in the 175,000 landlords- we have a small drop in the number of landlords in 2016- in the range of 700-800 (and also keep in mind- there is a disclaimer than not all the AHBs are included in the 2016 statistics- so they will have an effect on the 2017 figures too...........)

I.e. there is a small fall in the absolute number of landlords- a lot smaller than most of us imagined- however, in this forum a lot of the posters have consistently been looking at 2017 as a watershed- and implying the mass exodus is in this year....... Time will tell.........

Colking

Johan Polite Porterhouse wrote: »

This is the most wildly incorrect statement (being put across as the truth) I've read in a long time. This needs to be edited as its nothing but an anti-LL slur.

Just to demonstrate the sheer lies, the post above is claiming 80% of LLs in rent pressure zones have wrongly imposed a rent increase so that would be 143,163 LL (yes the is not the number of LLs but the number of tenancies but the claims above will be using the number of tenancies too not actual no. of LLs).

However as we can see below the actual number of cases raised was 348 (which may be all tenancies not just pressure zone) and of that 73% were upheld so which is 257.

So 257 tenancies/LLs out of 178,995 had illegal rent reviews which is approximately 0.14%.

So the op is claiming 80% whereas as a rough estimate of the actual number is 0.14%. Astonishing misrepresentation of stats.

Why hasn't Gizmo corrected their wildly inaccurate and inflammatory post ?

Edited after Gizmo edited their post.

Sadly though, once the fallacy of Gizmos post has been pointed out to them they have refused to edit their original post to reflect the truth of the matter, but seems to prefer to continue to peddle salacious falsehoods and propaganda. I am disappointed.

Askthe EA

Devil is in the detail on these figures and the RTB haven't released enough detail.

subrosa

The figures in the press release are all over the place and they confused the matter by statements in the media. The number of landlords is up 5000 on 2015, and while some of that may be AHBs it could by 548 max (the number of AHBs). The number of tenancies is up 6000 or so.

Askthe EA

subrosa wrote: »

The figures in the press release are all over the place and they confused the matter by statements in the media. The number of landlords is up 5000 on 2015, and while some of that may be AHBs it could by 548 max (the number of AHBs). The number of tenancies is up 6000 or so.

But you need to remove the total tenancies held by AHBs which were pre existing. The actual figure is WAY down.

subrosa

I assume when they say that 5,550 AHBs had registered their tenancies, they mean that the AHBs had registered 5,550 tenancies (makes no sense otherwise - there are nowhere near that number of AHBs.) So the number of tenancies is pretty stagnant (up a couple of hundred,) but that doesn't marry with an increase of 5000 in the number of landlords. Unless large institutional landlords have sold off properties to smaller landlords in large numbers (which hasn't happened.)

The RTB are basically claiming that the existing number tenancies have (more or less) been redistributed among a greater number of landlords.

jamesthepeach

The rtb have just proven themselves to be spin doctors and political.
If they were anything else they would answer questions truthfully, and answer the questions asked instead of acting like politicians and answering a different question than the one asked, even though they know exactly what is asked.
I wouldn't trust a word out of their mouths now.
Let's see if the media pick up on it today, or will they just publish press releases from the spin doctors instead of analyzing the data and pointing out the lies and spin.

The_Conductor

Colking wrote: »

Why hasn't Gizmo corrected their wildly inaccurate and inflammatory post ?

Edited after Gizmo edited their post.

Sadly though, once the fallacy of Gizmos post has been pointed out to them they have refused to edit their original post to reflect the truth of the matter, but seems to prefer to continue to peddle salacious falsehoods and propaganda. I am disappointed.

In all fairness to Gizmo- the RTB report has been presented in a manner to obsfusciate the information and make it quite incredibly to compare with previous years on a like-for-like basis. That it purports to do just this (comparisons with previous years) is a remarkable slight of hand- but was 100% definitely not done by a politician- as they tripped themselves up by highlighting the Association Housing on Page 3- and stating explicitly that it was included in the overall stats for the first time- which gave anyone who wanted to drill into the data a roadmap to work from (though- good luck trying to assert that any particular set of figures are accurate.

As for tribunal cases prosecuted by the RTB- which is something else that many commentators are interested in- they have buried in the report somewhere- that slightly over half the cases prosecuted related to determinations and adjudications which happened in previous years (and indeed- there are over 80 cases being brought to court from 2016- in 2017 which will duly feature in the 2017 stats- in a years time).

You nearly need some sort of qualification to decipher what the report does, and does not, implicitly and explicitly, state.

There is a campaign for 'Plain English' in the UK- that is a grassroots organisation who are trying to persuade government, state bodies and other organisations- to release data in straight forward, easily understandable and utilisable form. This report simply highlights that we would be well advised to try a similar approach here.

Also- just an observation- the 2016 report has bloated by over 40 pages from the 2015 report- but doesn't appear to have any compelling reason for turning into the tome it now is. It is well indexed and has a reasonable table of contents- however, it continually makes comparisons- which by its own admission in other parts of the report- are not valid comparisons to make- and are misleading in the extreme. Why can't the statistics be aggregated and published as an appendix (or made available separately)- for anyone who wishes to do their own analysis of the data. Other state bodies and government organisations- already use this open format- we should be insisting it is applied across the board.

Tossing in the Housing Association stats- and then trying to infer they are doing a like-for-like comparison with previous years- is a big no-no- and in some organisations, would get you fired.

sk8board

subrosa wrote: »

I assume when they say that 5,550 AHBs had registered their tenancies, they mean that the AHBs had registered 5,550 tenancies (makes no sense otherwise - there are nowhere near that number of AHBs.).

There are 548 registered AHB's in the country, so for sure the report is ambiguous
http://www.housing.gov.ie/housing/social-housing/voluntary-and-cooperative-housing/register-housing-bodies-approved-status

The RTB report on pg 20 says:
By the end of 2016, some 5,550 AHBs had registered their tenancies with the RTB"
This 5.5k number is clearly tenancies, not LL's.