'Houston we have a (flooding) problem'

Kermit.de.frog

Tropical Storm Harvey. All looking a little grim in Houston, Texas and many other areas along that part of the Gulf.




A further 20 to 25 inches of rain, or double the current amount, possible until Thursday.

Lots of problems, and some upsetting pictures from a nursing home doing the rounds with residents sitting in water up to their waistlines.

This could turn in to a proper disaster. Let's hope the Orange one can help cope with the aftermath.

Live stream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rpcKfGVK0M

Tokyo

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Let's hope the Orange one can help cope with the aftermath.

Don't worry, he's got it covered.... I'm sure they appreciate the congrats!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/901942677461229569?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.somethingawful.com%2Fnewreply.php%3Faction%3Dnewreply%26postid%3D475809524

Your Face

It's pretty bad up in Donegal too but one can't crowbar in ones political beliefs in a post like that.

Canis Lupus

mike_ie wrote: »

Don't worry, he's got it covered.... I'm sure they appreciate the congrats!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/901942677461229569?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.somethingawful.com%2Fnewreply.php%3Faction%3Dnewreply%26postid%3D475809524

That 'Thanks!' at the end..... sweet baby jebus.

wyrn

Saw this video on twitter. A reporter and her team noticed a lorry that was stuck with the driver still inside. They flagged down a cruiser that luckily drove past. It had a boat which was able to rescue the lorry driver. Apparently a lorry driver had died in the same circumstances in the same place last year. This guy was so lucky they noticed him & got help.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/watch-houston-tv-crew-saves-truck-drivers-life

JupiterKid

Has the Orange faced narcissist bothered to actually visit the disaster zone? I'd be surprised if he has.

ChikiChiki

mike_ie wrote: »

Don't worry, he's got it covered.... I'm sure they appreciate the congrats!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/901942677461229569?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.somethingawful.com%2Fnewreply.php%3Faction%3Dnewreply%26postid%3D475809524

What an asshat DT is. Obviously he didn't engage his brain typing this thus displaying 0 empathy with those who really need him.

You can be sure this is quite low on his list of priorities.

hairyslug

Ah now, he did manage to promote a book amongst all of this so he needs to be congratulated for that.

Samaris

He's very intrigued with it being the yugest storm for 500 years.

(Actually, it was a one in five hundred year storm - at least by current metrics - but I don't think he'd appreciate the actual meaning of the term.)

super_furry

But climate change totally isn't really. This is clearly a case of god punishing America for having trans people in the military.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz

I know 5 people are already dead, thousands have been rescued, many more are in major difficulty, and million of dollars worth of homes and businesses have been destroyed.....but fcuk them, lets use this as an excuse to bash Trump. Again.

Grayson

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

I know 5 people are already dead, thousands have been rescued, many more are in major difficulty, and million of dollars worth of homes and businesses have been destroyed.....but fcuk them, lets use this as an excuse to bash Trump. Again.

Great idea. Open season on the fcuktard then.

Canis Lupus

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

I know 5 people are already dead, thousands have been rescued, many more are in major difficulty, and million of dollars worth of homes and businesses have been destroyed.....but fcuk them, lets use this as an excuse to bash Trump. Again.

Sorry are people picking on your hero?

Assetbacked

Green Day fundraising song hopefully.

The scale of the destruction is incredible. Looking at the photos, it is shocking and unbelievable to see the extent of the flooding.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Sorry are people picking on your hero?

I bet you're known as a real sharp wit down in the bookies.

my3cents

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

I know 5 people are already dead, thousands have been rescued, many more are in major difficulty, and million of dollars worth of homes and businesses have been destroyed.....but fcuk them, lets use this as an excuse to bash Trump. Again.

Good that you mentioned the positive side of the disaster in your post.

Millions of dollars worth of homes and business destroyed is great for the economy and I'm sure the Trump is all for that.

Grayson

Assetbacked wrote: »

Green Day fundraising song hopefully.

The scale of the destruction is incredible. Looking at the photos, it is shocking and unbelievable to see the extent of the flooding.

It's bizarre to think that these events are going to get more and more common, yet there are people in the US with their heads stuck in the sand. More and more people will die before the US wakes up and realises that they're helping to cause this through global warming.

This map shows the gulf of mexico and the states there. You can play around with it to see where will be flooded with different levels of sea rises.
http://geology.com/sea-level-rise/new-orleans.shtml

(Editing to say: obviously not all the US. Just some idiots in one party)

Canis Lupus

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

I bet you're known as a real sharp wit down in the bookies.

I don't frequent such dens of iniquity and your faux outrage over Houston doesn't fool me either.

Boom_Bap

Canis Lupus wrote: »

I don't frequent such dens of iniquity and your faux outrage over Houston doesn't fool me either.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

I bet you're known as a real sharp wit down in the bookies.

It would be nice if the 2 of you would take this to PM rather than airing it out on thread.

Johnny_Fontane

My bro lives there and its mental right now. This is a proper catastrophe that nobody can really do anything about.

Its a once ever 800 year event.

800 ****ing years!

Assetbacked

Grayson wrote: »

It's bizarre to think that these events are going to get more and more common, yet there are people in the US with their heads stuck in the sand. More and more people will die before the US wakes up and realises that they're helping to cause this through global warming.

This map shows the gulf of mexico and the states there. You can play around with it to see where will be flooded with different levels of sea rises.
http://geology.com/sea-level-rise/new-orleans.shtml

(Editing to say: obviously not all the US. Just some idiots in one party)

I just had a play around with the map there; it's brilliantly simple to think of the solution to the problem of rising tides which is do not live right next to the sea.

Hande hoche!

JupiterKid wrote: »

Has the Orange faced narcissist bothered to actually visit the disaster zone? I'd be surprised if he has.

Think the emergency services and local administration have enough on their plate, without having to make security arrangements.

Grayson

Assetbacked wrote: »

I just had a play around with the map there; it's brilliantly simple to think of the solution to the problem of rising tides which is do not live right next to the sea.

Or next to floodplains. Or in Florida.

It's even worse for the east coast of the US.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/jun/24/us-east-coast-sea-level-rise

Sea level rise is accelerating three to four times faster along the densely populated east coast of the US than other US coasts, scientists have discovered. The zone, dubbed a "hotspot" by the researchers, means the ocean from Boston to New York to North Carolina is set to experience a rise up a third greater than that seen globally.

Asbury Sallenger, at the US geological survey at St Petersburg, Florida, who led the new study, said: "That makes storm surges that much higher and the reach of the waves that crash onto the coast that much higher. In terms of people and communities preparing for these things, there are extreme regional variations and we need to keep that in mind. We can't view sea level rise as uniform, like filling up a bath tub. Some places will rise quicker than others and the whole urban corridor of north-east US is one of these places."

The impacts of the rising seas are potentially devastating, said the scientists. "As an example, 1 metre of sea level rise could raise the frequency of severe flooding for New York City from once per century to once every three years," said Rahmstorf, adding that low lying countries like Bangladesh are likely to be severely affected. His colleague Michiel Schaeffer, at Wageningen University in the Netherlands, said: "Sea level rise is a hard to quantify, yet a critical risk of climate change. Due to the long time it takes for the world's ice and water masses to react to global warming, our emissions today determine sea levels for centuries to come."

RasTa

This picture was pretty nuts to see



Had to go viral for them to get rescued.

Manic Moran

JupiterKid wrote: »

Has the Orange faced narcissist bothered to actually visit the disaster zone? I'd be surprised if he has.

Scheduled for tomorrow. The last thing the folks in Texas need in the middle of the disaster is to put on a dog and pony show for visiting dignitaries, so it is normal to wait a few days.

InTheTrees

Sorry to drag politics back into it but there is some irony to the fact that not only did Mike pence and ted Cruz (senator from texas) vote against Relief Aid to the victims of Hurricane Sandy (that hit the east coast a few years ago) but also most of the republican house members from Texas voted against giving aid too.

GottaGetGatt

wyrn wrote: »

Saw this video on twitter. A reporter and her team noticed a lorry that was stuck with the driver still inside. They flagged down a cruiser that luckily drove past. It had a boat which was able to rescue the lorry driver. Apparently a lorry driver had died in the same circumstances in the same place last year. This guy was so lucky they noticed him & got help.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/watch-houston-tv-crew-saves-truck-drivers-life

Lucky guy. That reporter saved that guys life.

Samaris

Houston is still taking a battering, with more evacuations. The worst of the flooding is expected Wed/Thurs and there's a lot of destruction already. It's built on a delta/bayou, so it's bog-ground compressed by concrete, and Houston has been expanding rapidly outwards, covering the prairie lands with concrete too. It's left the ground unable to soak up floods and the creeks rapidly fill and overflow. This would always have been a particularly bad event (and by extreme bad luck, it's a long one too, it could be hitting the region for four to five days), but it's being made worse by lack of planning. And these storms are getting more frequent.

I honestly and unreservedly hope that the administration pulls its act together and handles this well, because this is going to take years to fix and there's going to be hundreds of people who have lost their homes and businesses and will need their government to be bloody well working. Like or loathe Trump (and I personally loathe him), I want him and his people to do well on this.

BillyBobBS

People bringing Trump into it haha. If nothing else you guys are predictable.

BillyBobBS

Good luck to the people in Texas. I knew it was going to be bad when residents where told to write their social security numbers on their arms.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Surely as it is becoming inevitable that events like this are going to be more common around the world governments have to plan ahead and actually push all further population growth inland.

Our own government seem intent on making sure Dublin is as heavily populated as it can be when maybe they should consider that it would better long term to have more people living further away from the sea.

Countries need to be considering the building of more and more flood defenses, the Dutch seem to be able to deal with their situation of being so low lying so why the hell can't the rest of the developed world cop on to it and start proper planning now.

Grayson

Saw this earlier



http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/harvey-rages-texas-senators-defend-votes-sandy-funding/story?id=49470206

Grayson

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Surely as it is becoming inevitable that events like this are going to be more common around the world governments have to plan ahead and actually push all further population growth inland.

Our own government seem intent on making sure Dublin is as heavily populated as it can be when maybe they should consider that it would better long term to have more people living further away from the sea.

Countries need to be considering the building of more and more flood defenses, the Dutch seem to be able to deal with their situation of being so low lying so why the hell can't the rest of the developed world cop on to it and start proper planning now.

Dublin's not too bad. It's hilly around it and a lot of buildings are on a higher elevation. Galway would be badly hit by sea rises but thankfully wouldn't get the same storm surges as Dublin.

vicwatson

Canis Lupus wrote: »

That 'Thanks!' at the end..... sweet baby jebus.

He's a busy boy saving the world

He'll be even busier after tonight "BREAKING North Korea fires missile, triggering warnings in Japan, projectile fell into sea off Japan's Hokkaido"

Kermit.de.frog

The situation seems to have deteriorated through the day with many more being evacuated now.

Should have been mandatory evacuations in some places as opposed to voluntary in my opinion.

Samaris

The fear is usually blocking the roads and the storm hitting with people stranded. I know that was why the mayor didn't evacuate Houston. At this stage, they're doing their best, but they're overwhelmed, just from the quotes about it. It is unprecedented and there's a lot of people to try shelter. Low-lying concrete over a bayou with a storm being held in position by a high pressure zone just repeatedly dumping gallons of water onto the city is a disaster.

Don't mean to sound snipey, I'm more just taken aback at the size of the task they have on. And it's still to get worse before it improves.

Canis Lupus

Samaris wrote: »

The fear is usually blocking the roads and the storm hitting with people stranded. I know that was why the mayor didn't evacuate Houston. At this stage, they're doing their best, but they're overwhelmed, just from the quotes about it. It is unprecedented and there's a lot of people to try shelter. Low-lying concrete over a bayou with a storm being held in position by a high pressure zone just repeatedly dumping gallons of water onto the city is a disaster.

Don't mean to sound snipey, I'm more just taken aback at the size of the task they have on. And it's still to get worse before it improves.

Not much they can do to be fair. How and where do you move 2.something million people.

Kermit.de.frog

Samaris wrote: »

Low-lying concrete over a bayou with a storm being held in position by a high pressure zone just repeatedly dumping gallons of water onto the city is a disaster.

It's been positive recently due to the drier air on the right hand of the system but as the center of the LP is back in the gulf now those rain bands are gaining in intensity again, it's rocket fuel.

Even after the "event" rivers will still be breaking their banks for some days down stream.

Good news is the end is in sight, just a long time getting there. The center of the system looks to be moving around 4 - 5 miles an hour. Glacially slow. Will be Wednesday afternoon before Houston, for example, would be totally clear of the extreme rain bands off the Gulf.

Samaris

Yeah, there's various rivers that have "cresting times" over the next day or so that people are watching like hawks because the rivers are full to bursting without it. At least one neighbourhood had to be evacuated to emergency release water from one of the lakes (shades of Cork and Iniscarra a few years back there) because that would flood it.

At least there's an end in sight but god, this will be years in the clean-up.

pilly

RasTa wrote: »

This picture was pretty nuts to see



Had to go viral for them to get rescued.

Jesus H that's atrocious.

pilly

Grayson wrote: »

Dublin's not too bad. It's hilly around it and a lot of buildings are on a higher elevation. Galway would be badly hit by sea rises but thankfully wouldn't get the same storm surges as Dublin.

What about Cork? Flooded at least once a year at the moment.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz

pilly wrote: »

Jesus H that's atrocious.

Good news, they're all safe and sound now. Serious questions will have to be asked as to why management did not evacuate.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/6wnz5b/remember_the_pic_of_the_assisted_living_center/

Grayson

pilly wrote: »

What about Cork? Flooded at least once a year at the moment.

Cork floats.


(Sorry, I couldn't help it)

Hande hoche!

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