Thursday 24 August (York Day 2)

diomed

This card has a few nice races.

The opening 20 runner charge will be interesting with £184k to the winner.

The highlight will be the Yorkshire Oaks, another chance to see Enable, who might be a filly remembered for the rest of the century.

Francie Barrett

Chepstow is where it's at today and I think that in the 4:40 that Teak looks absolutely chucked in at a mark of just 60 combined with the booking of De Sousa in a poor enough looking class 6 race. 13/2 best price now.

longshotvalue

Have to wait and see what ground is like but if it gets to good . Actress is more like a 7/4 shot than the 4/1 she is . I'll

Gringo180

Only paying ew on first 3 home in the first race in Boyle :pac:

irish_major

aidankkk wrote: »

Have to wait and see what ground is like but if it gets to good . Actress is more like a 7/4 shot than the 4/1 she is . I'll

Could not agree more & with the good weather you'd surely imagine it's heading towards good ground.
Have already had a bigish each way.

longshotvalue

Enable looks a machine in fairness. But after that race id be seriously worried she can keep it going until the ARC. She is trying near 100% each race and winning well but that's a lot of going to the well and back done already this year.

diomed

At Longchamp on fast ground a high draw seriously damages chances.
On slow ground Longchamp get very heavy so that isn't good either.
Chantilly might be a fairer test.
Enable didn't look as good at the end of the race today against imo lesser opposition.
But if you give me 20/1 I'll have a bet.

tryfix

aidankkk wrote: »

Enable looks a machine in fairness. But after that race id be seriously worried she can keep it going until the ARC. She is trying near 100% each race and winning well but that's a lot of going to the well and back done already this year.

I can't understand the pull of the Yorkshire Oaks for trainers like John Gosden, he's had Taghrooda beaten in it and now he's had Enable been given another hard race in a short period of time. The prestige in winning it means not a lot when you're winning it with an already top class filly or mare and the Prizemoney ain't great.

A hard fought 5l beating of Coronet isn't the kind of Arc prep that screams unbeatable. The problem is, what else is there that looks like an Arc winner?

Francie Barrett

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Chepstow is where it's at today and I think that in the 4:40 that Teak looks absolutely chucked in at a mark of just 60 combined with the booking of De Sousa in a poor enough looking class 6 race. 13/2 best price now.

Nr

Gringo180

Dettori thought he won that by a head :pac:

tryfix

tryfix wrote: »

I can't understand the pull of the Yorkshire Oaks for trainers like John Gosden, he's had Taghrooda beaten in it and now he's had Enable been given another hard race in a short period of time. The prestige in winning it means not a lot when you're winning it with an already top class filly or mare and the Prizemoney ain't great.

A hard fought 5l beating of Coronet isn't the kind of Arc prep that screams unbeatable. The problem is, what else is there that looks like an Arc winner?

I may have been wrongheaded in not being impressed by that win, Enable could hardly have done much more and she apparently had more in the locker.

BumperD

tryfix wrote: »

I may have been wrongheaded in not being impressed by that win, Enable could hardly have done much more and she apparently had more in the locker.

I haven't seen the race yet but I doubt they would have risked an Arc if they thought the oaks would damage her chances. Nice break and freshen up for the big one in October. Full steam ahead. She is the horse of the season by quite a bit in terms of talent, consistency and remaining potential to improve even more.

Harry Angstrom

She's around the same price now for the Arc as Sea The Stars was. The difference between the two is that STS always just did enough to win, with plenty still in the locker. Enable tends to give everything in her races. I hope it doesn't count against her in the Arc.

tryfix

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

She's around the same price now for the Arc as Sea The Stars was. The difference between the two is that STS always just did enough to win, with plenty still in the locker. Enable tends to give everything in her races. I hope it doesn't count against her in the Arc.

She is a tenacious battler as well, she broke Rhododendron when that classy filly came to take her on in the Oaks. Since then nothing has been able to get into a battle with her. There's huge stamina in her pedigree.

Does anyone else find her to be a very unusual physical type?



She seems to have a wide and long shallow body with a leg on each corner compared to the beautiful deep bodied classy looking types that Gosden normally has.

Gringo180

tryfix wrote: »

She is a tenacious battler as well, she broke Rhododendron when that classy filly came to take her on in the Oaks. Since then nothing has been able to get into a battle with her. There's huge stamina in her pedigree.

Does anyone else find her to be a very unusual physical type?



She seems to have a wide and long shallow body with a leg on each corner compared to the beautiful deep bodied classy looking types that Gosden normally has.

Shes not a looker anyways. She looks like a colt actually.