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Do I need European Language for LCVP?

  • 23-08-2017 7:20pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4


    I'm thinking of doing LCVP, but I have dropped german.
    I have read here Examinations Website

    "Students opting for an alternative to the Leaving Certificate Modern European Language or who are exempt from studying Irish must take an additional subject to ensure a minimum of 5 Leaving Certificate subjects."

    Is it true I only need 5 subjects?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    In the sense that you need 5 LC "traditional" subjects plus the Link Modules to be considered to have a "full" LC under this programme, yes.

    Most schools timetable for a minimum of 6 subjects and the LCVP modules though.
    SEC wrote:
    As an LCVP student, you must take a minimum of five Leaving Certificate Subjects (at Higher, Ordinary or Foundation Level) including Irish

    Two of the above must be selected from one of the designated Vocational Subject Groupings listed in the table below.

    You must study the two Link Modules, namely Preparation for the World of Work and Enterprise Education and

    You will be required to follow a recognised course in a Modern European Language (other than Irish or English).

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 WDButton


    In the sense that you need 5 LC "traditional" subjects plus the Link Modules to be considered to have a "full" LC under this programme, yes.

    Most schools timetable for a minimum of 6 subjects and the LCVP modules though.


    So If I have all the other LCVP requirements and the minimum 5 subjects, I can do LCVP without a language?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    On that specific bit, I actually don't know how they reconcile the difference between these two statements:

    "You will be required to follow a recognised course in a Modern European Language (other than Irish or English)"

    and

    "Students opting for an alternative to the Leaving Certificate Modern European Language"

    I know exemptions from the language requirement for entry to colleges can be granted to those with dyslexia, etc., but the phrase "opting for an alternative" seems to suggest circumstances in which there is more of an element of choice involved.

    If spurious happens by, she might be able to shed additional light on the subject, she would be more familiar with LCVP than I am.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭Hulgerx10


    WDButton wrote: »
    So If I have all the other LCVP requirements and the minimum 5 subjects, I can do LCVP without a language?

    I understand that this is purely anecdotal, but I didn't have a language and I completed LCVP just fine.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,315 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I think the 'opting for' might cover Japanese etc., but don't quote me on that.
    I don't think there is a way around the language requirement without an exemption.
    I will try ask someone who knows tomorrow.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    In my school they have what they call 'ab initio' class for LCVP students. They have 1 class per week in a foreign language where they do the basics of that language to meet the LCVP requirement if they are not studying a foreign language for LC. I presume that this is the norm in schools. This is separate from regular French/German LC classes. Actually last year I think they did Spanish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Neon_Lights


    we used to call LCVP lick a vuh pah, it was a language in of itself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Thanks Neon, that sorts everything out!! :pac: :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 WDButton


    In my school they have what they call 'ab initio' class for LCVP students. They have 1 class per week in a foreign language where they do the basics of that language to meet the LCVP requirement if they are not studying a foreign language for LC. I presume that this is the norm in schools. This is separate from regular French/German LC classes. Actually last year I think they did Spanish.

    Possibly this is because they didn't have 5 subjects minimum alternative to the language


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    WDButton wrote: »
    Possibly this is because they didn't have 5 subjects minimum alternative to the language

    No, I am a teacher in my school. The students all do 7 subjects for LC plus LCVP if they choose it. The only ones who are doing less are the ones who have an exemption from Irish, so they do 6 and LCVP if they have opted for it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 WDButton


    No, I am a teacher in my school. The students all do 7 subjects for LC plus LCVP if they choose it. The only ones who are doing less are the ones who have an exemption from Irish, so they do 6 and LCVP if they have opted for it.

    State Examinations Website States:
    Students opting for an "alternative" to the Leaving Certificate Modern European Language or who are exempt from studying Irish must take an "additional subject" to ensure a minimum of 5 Leaving Certificate subjects.

    Could this additional subject be anything?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Bazinga_N


    In my school they have what they call 'ab initio' class for LCVP students. They have 1 class per week in a foreign language where they do the basics of that language to meet the LCVP requirement if they are not studying a foreign language for LC. I presume that this is the norm in schools. This is separate from regular French/German LC classes. Actually last year I think they did Spanish.

    It's the same in my school, OP, there's a French class put on once a week for LCVP students who don't have a language. It's for beginners and doesn't have any exam or anything! So if you're school doesn't have compulsory foreign language studies than chances are they'll offer this too! Talk to your lcvp teacher at the start of the year and they'll surely know what to do for your case


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