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Which is better - plugging in every day or once a week

  • 22-08-2017 11:40am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭


    Hi,
    still doing my research, and a question springs to mind.

    Say if my daily commute is 30kms. Is it better to plug in every night and bring it back to 100%, or leave it drain and plug in when needed?

    Or with new battery technology, does it make a difference. (Showing my age with reference to memory effect etc.) :D

    If it makes a difference, I am probably referring to a Renault Zoe, probably 2014.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,639 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    LI-ion batteries are happiest in the middle state of charge
    So in your situation, I would deplete to 40% and then charge to say 80.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Makes very little difference. Nearly all EVs now come with an 8 year warranty on the battery. And a 2014 Zoe has probably battery rental? If so, the battery is guaranteed forever. EVs are probably end of life before there is a very substantial battery degradation (>30%)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,616 ✭✭✭grogi


    Hi,
    still doing my research, and a question springs to mind.

    Say if my daily commute is 30kms. Is it better to plug in every night and bring it back to 100%, or leave it drain and plug in when needed?

    Or with new battery technology, does it make a difference. (Showing my age with reference to memory effect etc.) :D

    If it makes a difference, I am probably referring to a Renault Zoe, probably 2014.

    Don't overthink simple things.
    ELM327 wrote: »
    LI-ion batteries are happiest in the middle state of charge
    So in your situation, I would deplete to 40% and then charge to say 80.

    And with the usable capacity around ~90% of the actual (5% shaved from the bottom, 5% from the top), they are in the middle all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Personally I would only charge it when needed. If for no other reason than charging every night is a lot of effort for no gain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭cros13


    grogi wrote: »
    Don't overthink simple things.

    And with the usable capacity around ~90% of the actual (5% shaved from the bottom, 5% from the top), they are in the middle all the time.

    ^This

    I charge every night because it increases the utility of the car. Why limit your ability to take unplanned trips?
    There's really no reason not to charge every night.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭ei9go


    cros13 wrote: »
    ^This

    I charge every night because it increases the utility of the car. Why limit your ability to take unplanned trips?
    There's really no reason not to charge every night.

    I wonder would you use more electricity that way because the batteries would spend time balancing every night?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭peposhi


    cros13 wrote: »
    ^This

    I charge every night because it increases the utility of the car. Why limit your ability to take unplanned trips?
    There's really no reason not to charge every night.

    I bloody second that!!!

    What's the point of baby-ing a battery that could/would/will be replaced by either new car or a battery in 5+ years or so...

    Even if you are planing to run the car down to the last breath - that's so many years ahead that you'd actually forget you were protecting it (unless saving is really your thing)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    mis truths and unproven rumours abound about Li battery health and " best practice "
    In the absence of good statically data

    Just charge the car as you desire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭LLewellen Farquarson


    Sound job,
    so the consensus is to just plug it in every night, or not, :) , as it makes no difference to the battery.

    It was more curiosity on my part - I have a driveway and will have an easily accessible charge point. Would probably just do it out of habit.

    Thanks for the replies,

    Now I just have to find a car!


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