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Job-Seekers Benefit

  • 21-08-2017 2:02pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2


    I'm hoping somebody might be able to shed some light.

    At the end of July I gave one months notice to my employer as I had found a new job, when I told them this they asked me to leave that day, it turned into a bit of an argument and I just left as they asked.

    I went straight to the Social Welfare Office as I knew getting all of the wages owed to me might be a challenge. I explained the situation and they signed me up for job-seekers benefit and told me I'd have to wait to be called again.

    In the mean-time after being on to Workplace Relations etc my old workplace sent me a letter saying they would pay me for my notice period and the holidays I had worked off. This payment was paid to my bank however I have been taxed to high heaven because I got a months payment using only a weeks tax credit and cut off point.

    Social Welfare have now contacted me asking to bring in my P45 and letter of termination, but am I still entitled to the payment until my new job starts even though i was paid my notice period? The last day of employment on my P45 is 28/07/17.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭Nomis21


    When you start your new job your tax will be lower because of the period where you will not be working for a month so you will get back the extra tax you have paid.

    You have been laid off by your last employer, not been sacked, and as long as you are available for work I can't see why you would not be eligible for JB, but that's just my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    You gave your notice to your employer and they asked you to leave instead of working it and will pay you, that's not terminating your employment its a perfectly legal thing to do.
    In terms of sw you can't claim benefits for 9 weeks after resigning from a job unless you have a very good reason for doing so and you wouldnt be eligible for payment whilst you're also being paid by an employer unfortunately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Tenigate


    In terms of sw you can't claim benefits for 9 weeks after resigning from a job unless you have a very good reason

    Just not true. While the welfare office can disqualify you from claiming for up to 9 weeks, they don't always.

    Op, your last day is the day you left and that's what will be written on your p45. Any additional payment should not affect your non means tested benefits i.e jsb.

    That was my experience when i left a job a few years ago and was paid in lieu of notice, and claimed jsb straight away.

    Regarding tax, request a balancing cert at the end of the year and any overpaid tax will be refunded.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    Tenigate wrote: »
    Just not true. While the welfare office can disqualify you from claiming for up to 9 weeks, they don't always.

    .

    I was trying to edit the post but my phone died, thanks.

    Op you may have to wait 9 weeks if you don't have a valid reason for leaving, you can read about it on the welfare site.

    What does the letter say? Does it say your employment was terminated or does it say you've been paid up to x date?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,279 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    Very hasty going to Dept.Of Social Protection before you sorted your entitlements with you old employer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    You gave your notice to your employer and they asked you to leave instead of working it and will pay you, that's not terminating your employment its a perfectly legal thing to do. In terms of sw you can't claim benefits for 9 weeks after resigning from a job unless you have a very good reason for doing so and you wouldnt be eligible for payment whilst you're also being paid by an employer unfortunately.

    OP has actually a very valid reason in the form of starting a new job. He is entitled to JSB because his old employer pushed him out earlier than he should be and instead of paying for the whole month has cut it short. This isn't the same thing as voluntarily leaving the job as the OP was prepared to work the whole period but was denied.
    Very hasty going to Dept.Of Social Protection before you sorted your entitlements with you old employer.

    The day you register with SW is what counts towards your benefits. It always takes a few weeks to get sorted anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    OP has actually a very valid reason in the form of starting a new job. He is entitled to JSB because his old employer pushed him out earlier than he should be and instead of paying for the whole month has cut it short. This isn't the same thing as voluntarily leaving the job as the OP was prepared to work the whole period but was denied.



    The day you register with SW is what counts towards your benefits. It always takes a few weeks to get sorted anyway.

    He wasn't cut short or denied anything he's been paid his full notice period, they paid him for every day he would have worked.
    Sure maybe the op will let us know if he has a termination letter or a letter stating his pay is to cover his notice period.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Haz2017


    Thanks for all the replies!

    I gave the requested paperwork to Social Welfare today so it's up to them to decide.

    Just to answer a few of your questions:

    I politely gave my notice to my employer and was asked to leave, I was given a clear impression that I would only be paid my holidays and week in hand. I could not go four weeks with no money coming in so I went straight to social welfare (a very smart thing if you ask me TheRiverman ;) ).

    Social Welfare were very helpful and given the circumstances the nine week rule that ye have mentioned didn't apply. Just last week I received a letter from my employer saying they would pay me all outstanding money along with my P45.

    I am starting a college course in September and have taken a minimum wage job to gain experience in an area related to my course, so I was just wondering if the claim would still go through as any money coming in would be greatly appreciated (so long as I am legally entitled to it).

    However I never thought about getting the overpaid tax refunded when I start my new job, thanks Nomis21, that sounds much better than waiting until next year to get tax back.


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