Rebailing round straw bales into small square bales

greensea

Putting it out there would there be a good margin on buying big square bales or round bales of straw and rebailing them as small square bales to sell on at €2 per bale? How many square bales are in the round 4x4 bales or in the big square bales?

Hard Knocks

greensea wrote: »

Putting it out there would there be a good margin on buying big square bales or round bales of straw and rebailing them as small square bales to sell on at €2 per bale? How many square bales are in the round 4x4 bales or in the big square bales?

Think there's 8 small squares in a 4x4 round.
I bought some of these type bales, never again.
The straw is too short & hard managed.
Be better with sawdust

Grueller

greensea wrote: »

Putting it out there would there be a good margin on buying big square bales or round bales of straw and rebailing them as small square bales to sell on at €2 per bale? How many square bales are in the round 4x4 bales or in the big square bales?

Roughly 10 bales per 4 x 4 depending on how they are packed.
Prepare for hardship doing it though unless you have some mechanical way of unravelling the 4 x 4 bales. Neighbour does it with hay. Horrible job.

MickeyShtyles

Grueller wrote: »

Roughly 10 bales per 4 x 4 depending on how they are packed.
Prepare for hardship doing it though unless you have some mechanical way of unravelling the 4 x 4 bales. Neighbour does it with hay. Horrible job.

10 idiot bricks to a round. If yer prepared for hardship, fire ahead. I saw a 20 acre field yesterday evening baled with idiot bricks and for all the rooting and bollixing it's not worth it!

Grueller

In my opinion the large baler, be they round or square, were the single best labour saving invention for the farm. (After tractors obviously)

grassroot1

greensea wrote: »

Putting it out there would there be a good margin on buying big square bales or round bales of straw and rebailing them as small square bales to sell on at €2 per bale? How many square bales are in the round 4x4 bales or in the big square bales?

Wouldn't you be better getting a job rather than torturing yourself with that

lakill Farm

idiot bricks are great if you have the means of handling them without using your hands.

Flat 8 sleigh and 8 bale grab.

they are great for hay racks and calving pens.

Everyone doesn't have access for straw blowers etc.

poor farmer

I have done it , Just to have small squares to put up on lofts etc.
Pure balls of a job and the the best way ever of breaking a square baler.

patsy_mccabe

If the guy buying the small bales says he's baling them into large round bales, then one of you is loosing money.
I'll get my coat.:P

st1979

Guy in Midlands has proper set up for doing this. My neighbour had a lorry and got a job bringing round hay bales there. Then after being unloaded moved to another shed and the trailer was loaded by hand with squares. He had a round bale un roller then fed into square baler then onto truck. Neighbour was very impressed and tried to take a photo and was made delete it

queueeye

greensea wrote: »

Putting it out there would there be a good margin on buying big square bales or round bales of straw and rebailing them as small square bales to sell on at €2 per bale? How many square bales are in the round 4x4 bales or in the big square bales?

Who's gonna give you 2 quid a bale for small squares unless they're delivered? 1.30 here in the field for squares and if it were possible it's the way I'd sell them all. Too many imponderables though. Fellas ordering them then not taking them, others wanting them for a euro each after a few showers of rain even though they've been stood and then the fella who swears he's got only x amount on the trailer when he's got x plus 50. Straw really is a curious commodity, everyone thinks they're being ridden on price regardless of what it is.
Ran the square baler and the round side by side at straw once to find out the ratio and iirc was about 14 bales but it depends on the density of each. It really is a how long is a piece of string type conundrum.
If one is bored/deluded enough go do it the only way would be to roll out the round bale and then give it a run or two of the haybob to fluff it up a little before square baling. More interesting hobbies out there I would've thought.

Farmer_3650

queueeye wrote: »

Who's gonna give you 2 quid a bale for small squares unless they're delivered?

I stopped buying small square bales of straw a few years back but I'm 99% sure they were €3 a bale undelivered

Hard Knocks

Farmer_3650 wrote: »

I stopped buying small square bales of straw a few years back but I'm 99% sure they were €3 a bale undelivered

Small squares are very handy, take up little space & great when you only need a handful

Sam Kade

Farmer_3650 wrote: »

I stopped buying small square bales of straw a few years back but I'm 99% sure they were €3 a bale undelivered

I baled hay for a man in 1985 (small bales) all were sold for £3.50/bale, mighty price back then but it was some sh1t year. It was the year the statues moved. If someone asked me for €3 for a small square bale I'd tell him to shoive it

The part time boy

Local lad around here turns rounds into small squares .

People will pay big money for them. Small horse lads and old lads.

I admit I was very slow to go round . The small square was handy for bedding calves and feeding hay .

But in hindsight round is so much easier to deal with

J.O. Farmer

The part time boy wrote: »

Local lad around here turns rounds into small squares .

People will pay big money for them. Small horse lads and old lads.

I admit I was very slow to go round . The small square was handy for bedding calves and feeding hay .

But in hindsight round is so much easier to deal with

The big square is the best of both worlds.
You can open the bale take a couple of sections and tie it back together. When you open the round if you don't use the whole lot it can take up a lot of room.

dohc turbo2

There a lad down past tralee direction who buys hay in Wexford and makes small squares out of it , his baler don't be under any pressure making them soft short bales , I was caught for bit once and when loading them I was going down trough them , just took a few to sort me

The part time boy

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

The big square is the best of both worlds.
You can open the bale take a couple of sections and tie it back together. When you open the round if you don't use the whole lot it can take up a lot of room.

I never used them but come across lots of lads who do and they seem to make a lot of sense . However the old tillage blood in me does not like that they can't take any rain